WOW! So much good news... :-)

Good job! Many many thanks for the mono mode, and the dynamics indicator. It's nice you plan to add the standard gr meter, It will be more readable for multiple tracks I guess. The new indicator has a little too slow refresh rate in my opinion, but it provides a good overview on the dynamics.

The recording features are nice too. I'm only surprised by the 10 MByte/s throughput limitation. As I assume this is a USB 1.0 port? I was quite confident that it will solve all of the dropout problems of drivers and use the full potential of the UFX. A little disappointing that this feature will have a note "*full potential only in 44kHz".

I think there is too little speaker management in the UFX. A limiter on the outputs is a must in such a product. Also a soobwoofer section with bass management and crossover linked with the mains in the control room section would be a good addition.

I have encountered a problem where the dsp usage meter got stuck. No mater if all dsp effects were on or off, TMFX showed almost full DSP usage and didn't allow to enable anything more which was DSP driven. I think it happened after several clock changes.

Restarting TMFX cleared the DSP meter but the fx still doesn't go on, even though TMFX shows that they are enabled.
Restarting the UFX and TMFX afterwards made things work again.

Hi Matthias,
All these updates are great!

Some notes/bugs:
1. Playback channel selection on UFX LCD allows selecting channels 60/61.
2. When moving up and down in playback channels on UFX LCD, the background is not cleared, so it reads like "((((1/2))".
3. Clicking on "Info" in TMFX during record operation, displays incorrect information:
  While recording 4 channels in 44.1 KHz, the Info message box says "48 channels, SR 32000 Hz".
  Correct information is displayed after stopping the record operation.
4. After updating firmware and driver and restarting the computer, old TMFX is started and then crashes.
  This is solved after updating to 0.94.
5. The readme file in the fut_usb_win_pre (129) setup says "Requires driver 0.978 or higher". For now we have only version 0.977.
6. After deleting the last file in TMFX, the "Info" and "Delete" buttons remain enabled. On UFX LCD the "Play" and "Delete" buttons remain enabled. In both TMFX and LCD the time trackbar does not clear.
7. Delete dialog in TMFX says "Do you really wont to delete ...?". That should be "want"

Thanks for the great work!

The Direct USB Recording is only supported by the Fireface UFX. The Fireface UC can record on PC hosts via the included DIGICheck´s Global Record.

best regards
Knut

>They have to be formatted as FAT32 before. We tested up until 2 TB

What HD did you use, and what software to format to FAT32? I have many live concerts this week, and I'd like to do a field test but I can't get my WD passport USB3 drive to work.
I've used several different programs to format, all to no avail.

Dan,

Would very much like to find a drive that works, so I can use my UFX to record live gigs too.  Am glad that yours works, but it doesn't help me much, when I've spent several hours trying to get mine to work with various formatting tools, and it doesn't.  I'm also using Fat32Formatter with my Toshiba 500 GB USB Drive.  Tried formatting it on several different computers.  It is a healthy, active, FAT32, single MBR partition.  Every computer I've tried it on recognizes it.  UFX Firmware Version 125 gave me "Initializing" indefinately.  Vesion 129 gives me "File System Error".  As this is a public pre-release version, am assuming you'd like to believe the code is matured to the point that most folks are not having issues.  As the majority of my USB drives have exactly the same problem, and I'm reading of other people also having problems on this forum, I wonder if that is the case.  I really hope that the fact that your Seagate is working well, isn't preventing your team from further development.  Do you have any suggestions to solve my problem, short of buying new drives until one works?  Will be happy to report detailed results of tests, but was hoping on a little more interaction.

Thanks,
Mike

Update:  I finally found an older Verbatim 500 GB USB Drive that works - formatted (as with my other drives) using Fat32Formatter.  Have noticed that the older drives are the ones that tend to work - the newer ones, in general, are not (for me).

Well, here are some comments, mostly minor:

1) I like the GR indicator. It's a nice variant and gives you a good idea where your signal is related to your thresholds

2) The Main Out B is a nice feature, but I'd prefer to have the Main output active together with the B instead of just one of them.
    On my analog mixers, output B is just a copy of the main output, with separate volume control if you need an extra output,
    following the main (like with the Link activated).
    I cannot think of any situation where I would want the Main to be muted when I need the Speaker B. Maybe it's only me...
    In my opinion, you don't even need the Speak.B button. Just let the Fader,M and Link (on Speak.B channel) do the work
    and leave the Main channel unaffected.

3) What about putting a Mono button on the tools tab/page on the Speaker B which sums L+R to Mono, like on the Main?
    Then, if you either (whatever is the easiest implementation)
    a) allow LPF/HighCut (shelf, but inverted)  as an alternative on the EQ 1 in addition to HPF/bell
    OR
    b) Allow the EQ 3 freq to go down to 80Hz (Using shelf:LPF, setting gain to -20)
    OR
    c) On ONLY this Speaker B channel, add an alternative to the LoCut on the top of the Eq: HiCut (using same dB/Oct and Freq)
      (Gives best result, but causes the Eq to be different than all the others, which you probably don't like :-)
     we could actually use this as a filtered subwoofer output :)

4) The Cue buttons behaves strangely. First I was not allowed to Cue some of the output channels (Ph.9/10, Ph.11/12, AES).
    Then I restarted TM and then I was not allowed to Cue ANY of the outputs, and I couldn't even activate the Link btn on the Speak.B
    The CPU load is low and have 6 EQs and 1 D active. I've seen this before also. Any requirements for the Cue buttons to work?
    Turned everything off and on several times. Cue/Link buttons change color only while I hold down Mouse button, but will not stay on,
    and nothing is cued at all. What am I doing wrong? Major bug??

5) As mentioned by Zavieri, the Cue of a mono output sends only to Left Main output.

6) I still miss my configured channel/track names on my MCU. Isn't this pretty simple to implement?
    Hope to see it soon :-)

I know you've been focusing a lot on the recording function to be ready for the Messe, and it's getting really good.
Keep up the good work!

I'm just trying to keep you busy when you get back from the Messe :-)

Geir.

Wow, my new TMFX just crashed for the first time after a few hours of fiddling...
The only thing I did was to choose Matrix View from the Function menu.
Windows crash-report below.

Next time it didn't crash.

Geir.

-------------------------------------------------------
Program with error: TotalMixFX.exe, version: 0.0.94.0, time: 0x4d99ea45
Modulname with error: ntdll.dll, versjon: 6.1.7600.16695, time: 0x4cc7ab86
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Error displacement: 0x00038db9
Error process-ID: 0x1278
Error programpath: C:\Windows\System32\TotalMixFX.exe
Error modulepath: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll
Rapport-ID: 65e80be1-6170-11e0-8922-90e6ba4e3503

We figured it out. Every time you start TM FX the Cue buttons don't work. Switch Record View On/Off and the work. If you change a channel from stereo to mono this channel's Cue is broken again - switch Record View On/Off and it works again. Fix coming.

Superb! Thanx.

And it will stay like that.

Just got my UFX, love it so far, been trying out the USB recording feature.

I found a bug in what you said above. Hitting record on the UFX itself is reported back to the Record View in TotalMix, and the timer starts rolling there. But if you do it the other way around, hit record in TotalMix, it starts recording, but the timer and hd status, etc, don't update on the UFX itself. The REC blinks nonetheless.

Also, working on a Macbook Pro 13" screen, TotalMix is an absolute pain to use. The two row view doesn't fit a lot, and the scrolling is really awkward and very...not mac-like. In 3 row view, the last row rolls off the screen.

I would love it if new recordings went into new folders, and actually wrote all the different files to the disk, pull track names from totalmix, not just the one wave file for each 2gb segment. But I guess there are technical reasons behind that.

EDIT: Typo

A compromise isn't necessary. If it was built with usable scrolling (scrolling sideways on a touchpad while the mouse is anywhere over a section should scroll it), and draggable and resizable sections would GREATLY improve usability on smaller screen. This would in no way compromise the GUI for bigger screens with more resolution, on the contrary it would enhance it.

EDIT: When I say resizable, I mean resizing it horizontally to show more or fewer channels, not changing the height of the modules and squishing them.

EDIT 2: There are also basic UI elements missing from the design. When a window is bigger than the screen, it should not flow over it, it should instead become scrollable.

Just a small update: during Musikmesse we verified some bugs posted here, found some more, and tested lots of different memory devices. We are now working on the release candidate of firmware and driver, which will have a much improved compatibility (means works with many more sticks/drives that do not work now) and lots of fixes and improvements. We hope to have it released before the end of next week. Stay tuned!

Awesome.

I'm currently on location recording 22 channels onto a 2.5" drive, about a 3 hour show, first real test. Everything working smoothly so far

EDIT: Back home now listening, everything went smoothly, I'm amazed by the sound quality, can't wait for future improvements and new features!

Fat32 seems to be the easiest way, but Windows and Mac natively support ExFat (Fat64) which is optimised for flash/portable drives and doesn't have limits for file size and have fast erase mechanisms.

As for automatic file splitting:
Maybe add a "cut" button to separate the tracks between songs on live recordings, without stopping and pressing the record again. Have anyone tested if 2GB file splitting doesn't drop any samples?

It works for my 2,5" drive. Some 2,5" enclosures also have a power adapter input for cases where bus power is not enough.

Make sure there is no first hidden partition. Some WD drives have this as a virtual cd for the security features.

Great news, thanks for the update

Hi All,

Couple things: I recorded a single stereo pair to a seagate FreeAgent Go (1TB) drive and decided just to let it go, ran it for nearly week recording.
Ran fine, 3%, No errors. The files played fine.

Just purchased another Seagate Freegent GoFlex (320Gb), decided to arm all 60 tracks. Its running at 65% but with 12 errors so far.
Formatted it with GUIFormat and 32k cluster size.

My question is where do the errors come from and what do they mean to me as far as my recording goes? Are the errors corrected? Does this
mean that the recorded files are going to be corrupted in some way? Or will the end files still be ok?

Thanks as always,
Chip Borton

The errors come from a too long time that is needed to transfer the data to the drive. Have a look at the write time which most probably was more than 400 ms. And yes, the files then will have drop outs.

I am astonished that this drive performs so bad. I have a Go Flex myself, 500 GB, and get 100 ms with 0 errors. But on the other hand you will never record 60 channels so it will work when used in a real world application.

Ok, maybe with the next firmware these errors are gone then. The front recording is independent from the DAW interface operation except for the current sample rate.

I understand, better is to let it record...and have it as a back up or divide the entire session in two or three big files right?

You are right, now when I want to review the files I don´t know where to start ;-) but well...it was my first official and long session...thats why I took my computer with me...so to feel safe...but next time I know what to do...

Thanks Matthias, very clear as allways....

There is no broadcast wave header and there will be no markers. That is not possible with the existing resources.