Topic: Original Hammerfall Multiface for Mac Pro and Macbook Pro M1

Hi,

I've been using my Hammerfall Multiface with a 2007 Mac Pro all these years, and I've come to love the combination.

I am moving to a different continent and I think it's time to say goodbye to my Mac Pro.

Here's a question: is there a way to somehow connect my Hammerfall with the Macbook?

I understand that Macbooks don't have PCI Express slots but wondering if anyone has thought of a smart workaround to make an amazing piece of hardware (Hammerfall) work with newer tech from Apple?

Re: Original Hammerfall Multiface for Mac Pro and Macbook Pro M1

You'd need some external enclosure for the PCIe or Expresscard HDSP interface...

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

Re: Original Hammerfall Multiface for Mac Pro and Macbook Pro M1

can you please point me in the right direction?

Re: Original Hammerfall Multiface for Mac Pro and Macbook Pro M1

And Daniel, will a PCI or PCIe card ever work with M1 macs, even if in an external enclosure?
I am asking for the OP, because as far as I remember PCI cards never worked on OSX (hackingtosh) cause there were never any osx machines with PCI only PCIe, so those work on OSX intel. But as long as there are no M1 PCIe machines will the drivers work anyway. Sorry if I am wrong but it would be expensive for the OP if he got an M1 macbook only to find out it will not work with an external enclosure.

Vincent, Amsterdam
https://soundcloud.com/thesecretworld
Babyface pro fs, HDSP9652+ADI-8AE, HDSP9632

Re: Original Hammerfall Multiface for Mac Pro and Macbook Pro M1

PCI cards are not compatible at all, PCIe cards are ready for Thunderbolt and compatible to the M1 Mac.

Regards,
Jeff Petersen
Synthax Inc.

Re: Original Hammerfall Multiface for Mac Pro and Macbook Pro M1

…yep, absolutely…i have this enclosure for my hdspe card (+ multiface) and get absolutely mindblowing performance… https://www.sonnettech.com/product/echo … rview.html
a session that i was only able to run safely (for live performance) at 256 samples buffer i‘m now able to run at 64 samples buffer…

7 (edited by menych 2022-05-05 23:52:32)

Re: Original Hammerfall Multiface for Mac Pro and Macbook Pro M1

Scheffkoch wrote:

…yep, absolutely…i have this enclosure for my hdspe card (+ multiface) and get absolutely mindblowing performance… https://www.sonnettech.com/product/echo … rview.html
a session that i was only able to run safely (for live performance) at 256 samples buffer i‘m now able to run at 64 samples buffer…

THANK YOU.

So just to be clear, you have the PCIe card in the enclosure-- and you connect the enclosure to your mac via what interface?

Re: Original Hammerfall Multiface for Mac Pro and Macbook Pro M1

Another question is: if you had to choose between the original Multiface in an enclosure vs. a new Babyface or Fireface UCX II, which would you go with?

In other words, is selling the original multiface and buying the new interface worth the performance as opposed to just buying the enclosure and going with the tested interface I've come to love?

Re: Original Hammerfall Multiface for Mac Pro and Macbook Pro M1

I would go with a new one 100% sure. That is if costs would be roughly the same or affordable. Only if money was the issue I would stay on the multi. BTW I have 4 hdsp cards 2 9652 and 2 9632 and one Babyface pro FS. Performance of my BF is equal latency wise, but sound quality a step up.
Hence the choice.

Vincent, Amsterdam
https://soundcloud.com/thesecretworld
Babyface pro fs, HDSP9652+ADI-8AE, HDSP9632

10 (edited by Scheffkoch 2022-05-06 18:53:38)

Re: Original Hammerfall Multiface for Mac Pro and Macbook Pro M1

…i didn‘t „upgrade“ to a new usb interface since there were (are?) usb driver problems even on macos (eg they switched to a different usb connector company or something like that which resulted in several problems) and pci express (=thunderbolt) always was the most direct and native solution in my opinion…i have my multiface1 now with my 5th computer and for me that‘s a proof how reliable this team is…
you just put the hdspe card (pci express) into the sonnettech enclosure (i also deactivated the fan so that it‘s dead silent), connect your multiface via the firewire cable and the sonnet enclosure via a thunderbolt3 cable direct to the m1…done
i also take the whole team on the road since the sonnet enclosure is absolutely robust…happy rme camper here…✌️
P.S.: i‘m so convinced about this solution that i‘d put a rme aio pro into the sonnet if somehow my hdspe card stopped working…

Re: Original Hammerfall Multiface for Mac Pro and Macbook Pro M1

I was that convinced too, until I had a hdsp and BF pro FS, on the same system and could compare. But of course, if you have a computer with bad usb you are in trouble.

Vincent, Amsterdam
https://soundcloud.com/thesecretworld
Babyface pro fs, HDSP9652+ADI-8AE, HDSP9632