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hi - Does anyone know if updating the firmware on a UFX to 361 in order to use this new driver will mean it still works ok on an older computer (intel trashcan) which is still using the 327 driver? thank you!
Yes it does.
Working flawlessly on Ventura 13.1 under Ableton Live 11, Audio Hijack 4, and Reaper 6.
New USB driver 406
MacbookAir M1 Ventura
Digiface USB
Works fine as expected, nothing to complaine, no one to blame, great job !
Hey guys, my Mac (ventura) detects fireface in class compliant mode. But when CC mode is off, the driver 4.06 is NOT working. I've allowed those drivers to not be blocked, but wit comes with a sample rate of 32000 HZ, meaning the Mac is not even detecting the hardware, flash tool is also not working so I can't even update the hardware. Can anyone help?
It sounds like you may have missed the requirement to enable the security settings at the end of installation and before restart.
Hi,
im on Monterey 12.3.1 and have a UFX at the studio and UFX II at home. RME USB 4.06 driver was working fine at home, but I cant get it to work with my UFX.
What to do ? 
Hi,
im on Monterey 12.3.1 and have a UFX at the studio and UFX II at home. RME USB 4.06 driver was working fine at home, but I cant get it to work with my UFX.
What to do ?
May you check if the Firmware of the UFX is version 361.
Hello, I installed 4.06 driver (clicked allow in settings and rebooted my mac), and I see that device is recognised in the Fireface USB Settings app. However my mac and total mix do not see it, as well as other apps. I'm on Ventura 13.0.1 (For the reference I tried to install previous version of the driver couple weeks ago when I was on Monterrey - it was the same thing)
Any thoughts? I'm using Fireface UCX
OskarThor wrote:Hi,
im on Monterey 12.3.1 and have a UFX at the studio and UFX II at home. RME USB 4.06 driver was working fine at home, but I cant get it to work with my UFX.
What to do ?
May you check if the Firmware of the UFX is version 361.
I was trying to flash it yesterday but the blue line did not move for about 20 minutes.
Is there any indication on when the DriverKit driver will come out of beta, and become official? There's got to be some Apple deadline, right? Just this week when I updated to Ventura 13.1, macOS warned me that the current RME driver will not be supported in future versions - without being any more specific.
It's working just fine and there's no need to panic. That warning comes up for many of the drivers in my system.
Just keep enjoying your work with them.
When I turn on my UFX I see it is on version 1.63 
Do I need a driver to update my to a higher number before i go to 361 ?
And is that even possible ?
ok I was being a dumb ass The 1.63 was the nr that came up on my UFX when I turned it on. It was on 360 but would not Flash on the M1.
I found a old Macbook pro 2017 BigSur 11.6 and ran the Flash on that to my UFX and now it its working on the new computer
I've done a fresh install of Ventura with 4.06, and the volume control issue I had has gotten worse. Not only do I lose the ability to control volume with my volume keys on the keyboard/OS itself, I can no longer use the physical volume knob on my Fireface UC to 'reset' the bug to allow physical volume key controls. Only thing that fixes it now is a soft reboot of macOS.
To reiterate the issue, after an extended period of uptime, pressing the volume up/down keys on the keyboard brings up the volume up/down display, but nothing happens. Volume stays the same. Even if using the volume slider in the mission control/top right hand corner menu bar, it will not control audio. Changing the volume via the Fireface UC knob itself 'fixed' the issue until it came back, which required another turn of the dial. This workaround no longer works post fresh install.
benst wrote:After the last Big Sur 11.7 update I lost my UFX with 3.27 driver again. So I gave the latest 4.06 (with TM 1.78) another try.
The system becomes very sluggish every now and then. The problem seems to be with TotalMix, which sometimes uses up to 100% cpu time. The mouse moves very erratic (stays at one point, then jumps to the next, etc), and mouse clicks are not registered or only after several seconds.
Quiting TM immediately makes the system responsive again. I looked in /var/log/system.log but could not find any clues.
This is on a late 2014 iMac 27" retina, 4 GHz Quad core i7, 32 GB memory.
Quick update: since this post and the downgrade to 3.27, my system has been running stable again. (Probably until the next Big Sur upgrade.
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And indeed, after upgrading to 11.7.2 today, the driver wasn't loaded and the UFX wasn't recognized. I reinstalled 3.27, rebooted, and it is working again. Bit disappointed in this. Please let me know if I can help in any way, send log files, whatever.
I see no newer 4.x version has been posted recently so I declined to try that again because of the quoted problems.
Ben
There is a major problem when I use Logic Pro X with my BF Pro FS in Native mode. When you hit play it just keeps stuttering. If I switch to another interface or the Mac's internal interface the problem stops completely. When logic is used in rosetta mode the session opens fine with my RME interface. This points to a driver issue which is causing the playback to stutter when Logic is running in native mode. I have tried with Logic's internal plugins or with plugins that run natively but the problem persists on the RME interface. No issues when used with another interface! Hopefully this problem can be fixed when the final version of the driver comes out. Without that the interface is completely unusable in native mode. The same session runs smoothly with my Fireface 800!
Here is a thread that mentions the issue in detail: https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=35215
There is a major problem when I use Logic Pro X with my BF Pro FS in Native mode. When you hit play it just keeps stuttering. If I switch to another interface or the Mac's internal interface the problem stops completely. When logic is used in rosetta mode the session opens fine with my RME interface. This points to a driver issue which is causing the playback to stutter when Logic is running in native mode. I have tried with Logic's internal plugins or with plugins that run natively but the problem persists on the RME interface. No issues when used with another interface! Hopefully this problem can be fixed when the final version of the driver comes out. Without that the interface is completely unusable in native mode. The same session runs smoothly with my Fireface 800!
Here is a thread that mentions the issue in detail: https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=35215
Can you listen music with the Babyface ?
Files from the Finder, MP3s etc Youtube ?
soundpotion wrote:There is a major problem when I use Logic Pro X with my BF Pro FS in Native mode. When you hit play it just keeps stuttering. If I switch to another interface or the Mac's internal interface the problem stops completely. When logic is used in rosetta mode the session opens fine with my RME interface. This points to a driver issue which is causing the playback to stutter when Logic is running in native mode. I have tried with Logic's internal plugins or with plugins that run natively but the problem persists on the RME interface. No issues when used with another interface! Hopefully this problem can be fixed when the final version of the driver comes out. Without that the interface is completely unusable in native mode. The same session runs smoothly with my Fireface 800!
Here is a thread that mentions the issue in detail: https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=35215
Can you listen music with the Babyface ?
Files from the Finder, MP3s etc Youtube ?
Yes, from finder its fine. Only playing from the DAW is the issue. I also own a fireface800 and there is no problem at all with that. So its an issue with the usb driver that works with the Babyface Pro FS...
Hi, I just bought a Fireface UCX, and I am facing glitches using it with my MacBook pro m1 running Monterey 12.0.1.
I have tried the driver 327 and the latest 4.06 beta and both creates the same kind of clicks and momentary stops the music, using Ableton with a basic project with less than 10 tracks.
I have already uploaded the new firmware.
On the console I found this message.
error 22:58:47.419663+0000 CAReportingService flushMessagesWithCompletion: flush failed with error '<private>'
/System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/XPCServices/CAReportingService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/CAReportingService(/System/Library/
PrivateFrameworks/RTCReporting.framework/Versions/A/RTCReporting)
What can I do to solve this?
Thanks
Hi guys,
I just switched my old Mac Pro for a mint Mac Studio, with Monterey.
My audio interface is one of the first Fireface UFX, version 1.58 (It seems to me that I couldn't update it when I wanted to add the remote controller years ago because it was one of the first ones).
Please could you tell me which driver I should install, preferably the most stable version ?
Thanks
Hi, I just bought a Fireface UCX, and I am facing glitches using it with my MacBook pro m1 running Monterey 12.0.1.
I have tried the driver 327 and the latest 4.06 beta and both creates the same kind of clicks and momentary stops the music, using Ableton with a basic project with less than 10 tracks.
I have already uploaded the new firmware.On the console I found this message.
error 22:58:47.419663+0000 CAReportingService flushMessagesWithCompletion: flush failed with error '<private>'
/System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/XPCServices/CAReportingService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/CAReportingService(/System/Library/
PrivateFrameworks/RTCReporting.framework/Versions/A/RTCReporting)What can I do to solve this?
Thanks
What does the activity monitor tell you? Especially regarding the "memory pressure" these dropouts reflect on my system pretty clear with some kind of memory "occupation".
Don't expect much in solving the issue – at least my posts did not find an open ear from RME side.
Thanks for answering… at least someone reads the posts on the forum.
Memory seems normal without any spikes.
I can't believe that 20 years later, and after spending many thousands of euros in new computer and RME interface, I am still facing the same issues as in the year 2000.
mikgld wrote:Hi, I just bought a Fireface UCX, and I am facing glitches using it with my MacBook pro m1 running Monterey 12.0.1.
I have tried the driver 327 and the latest 4.06 beta and both creates the same kind of clicks and momentary stops the music, using Ableton with a basic project with less than 10 tracks.
I have already uploaded the new firmware.On the console I found this message.
error 22:58:47.419663+0000 CAReportingService flushMessagesWithCompletion: flush failed with error '<private>'
/System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/XPCServices/CAReportingService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/CAReportingService(/System/Library/
PrivateFrameworks/RTCReporting.framework/Versions/A/RTCReporting)What can I do to solve this?
Thanks
What does the activity monitor tell you? Especially regarding the "memory pressure" these dropouts reflect on my system pretty clear with some kind of memory "occupation".
Don't expect much in solving the issue – at least my posts did not find an open ear from RME side.
Dumb question but did you connect your Fireface directly to your MacBook or are you using an USB hub?
This could cause severe issues at least if caused dropouts and breaks / stops with logic pro.
Actually starting to experience some dropouts and issues when recording within Ableton Live. 32bit/88k. Normally works without any issues. Also starting to glitch within Zoom. Currently on MacOS Ventura 13.1.
Actually starting to experience some dropouts and issues when recording within Ableton Live. 32bit/88k. Normally works without any issues. Also starting to glitch within Zoom. Currently on MacOS Ventura 13.1.
Are there lots of plugins active in Ableton when working with Zoom ?
Can you bypass all plugins for testing ?
krow01 wrote:Actually starting to experience some dropouts and issues when recording within Ableton Live. 32bit/88k. Normally works without any issues. Also starting to glitch within Zoom. Currently on MacOS Ventura 13.1.
Are there lots of plugins active in Ableton when working with Zoom ?
Can you bypass all plugins for testing ?
Okay so after sitting down and testing, it doesn't seem to be the driver. Switching USB ports seems to have fixed the issue so seems more like a failing port. No glitches since. I'll continue to monitor.
I've given the 4.06 USB driver a try out. Using a USB3.0 the UFX+ is detected without problem on 16 inch MBP (Monterey), however regular USB2.0 cable it is never detected, which is a bit odd compared to the 3.27 USB kext.
In terms of performance, I'm getting audio glitches every minute or so on the 4.06 driver. It's like a digital glitch that can be quite loud while audio is playing back, like when a cellphone call is breaking up. It's happening either in low latency audio apps like the DAW, but also just in general using Safari and playing websites that make sound. So I'm not happy to use this driver at this point.
(Edited a day later - Full uninstall back to 3.27 then reinstall of 4.06 Driverkit has eliminated this glitching and non detection. Very likely this is an Apple issue)
After all the mysterious issues which you already had on TB I am not astonished to read about further issues when using USB 3 and USB 2. Still:
- USB 2 (of course) works with driver 4.06. The first time the unit is connected via USB 2 cable the same Allow Device confirmation dialog will pop up as it does for USB 3. Maybe you missed that one.
- Or the Interface Mode is not set to Auto but USB 3.
- Or the UFX+ is on firmware version 53 which had a (documented) USB 2 detection bug. That was already fixed in version 54 in June 2021.
MC, there is definitely something up with Apple's OS. I decided to try one more time, installing the 327DK to remove, and then 4.06 Driver fresh install. Now the UFX+ is discovered with USB2.0 or USB3.0 cable and I am not getting the glitches via either cable type. I was definitely on 4.06 when I tested this yesterday, and the firmware was already 54. It's as though there is some bug in MacOS where a driver is installed partially or with some kind of restriction on i/o, because today this works as I'd expect it to work, and the only change has been removal of driver and reinstall of Driverkit. I am very exasperated with how many things do not work properly on the current machines/OS. I can't even update this year old MBP16 to Ventura as the OS update fails to complete and bricks the entire machine requiring a revert to Monterey.
MC, there is definitely something up with Apple's OS. I decided to try one more time, installing the 327DK to remove, and then 4.06 Driver fresh install. Now the UFX+ is discovered with USB2.0 or USB3.0 cable and I am not getting the glitches via either cable type. I was definitely on 4.06 when I tested this yesterday, and the firmware was already 54. It's as though there is some bug in MacOS where a driver is installed partially or with some kind of restriction on i/o, because today this works as I'd expect it to work, and the only change has been removal of driver and reinstall of Driverkit. I am very exasperated with how many things do not work properly on the current machines/OS. I can't even update this year old MBP16 to Ventura as the OS update fails to complete and bricks the entire machine requiring a revert to Monterey.
Did you try to to update to Ventura online ?
this often fails.
you can download complete installers, it was usually more successful for old iMacs and Books.
https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloa … istant.pkg
I did it online. When it failed right at the end, I ended up with a completely bricked machine. I then downloaded Ventura to USB key (Apple make this extremely difficult to do). Reinstalled fresh with that key, and it failed at the same point. Tried to download Monterey to another key to restore the machine, and Apple refused to allow me to download Monterey, so I had to find an older computer to access Monterey installer. When finally on USB key, the Macbook refused to allow installation (literally the OS it came with) unless I wiped the entire computer including 2nd partition. After a load of hassle and manual restoration I got back to Monterey and have no intention to try Ventura again.
I have such regrets of buying into the Apple Silicon machines, just about everything about them is inferior to the Intel machines apart from mobile battery life. In particular, what had been a run of flawless RME performance for years became a lottery. If you look at reports on Digilloyd/Macperformanceguide website, it's clear that both USB chip and Thunderbolt chip performance has suffered on the Apple Silicon machines where the latency and throughput is inferior to the Intel Mac Pro.
I'm going to retry the 1.02 Thunderbolt Driverkit reinstallation to see if repeated install will fix any issues I have seen. I would prefer to be on Thunderbolt than USB (RME's USB drivers are great, it's just that I have so many other things running on USB I'd rather Audio was not sharing it) but so far I've seen lower functional latency on RME USB driver on the M1 Macs than Thunderbolt.
I am having problems with the beta driver 4.06:
My UCX is sometimes not recognised by Total Mix, currently only my Digiface USB is recognised.
- Both interfaces are showing up in the driver window (Fireface USB Settings)
- I can select the UCX as a system audio device and it is playing fine
- The UCX is not in CC mode
- After a reboot everything works normal again
- the problems appears regularly the last days, it also affected both interfaces once
MacBook Pro 13-inch, M1, 2020
macOS 13.1
Any more info you need from my side before I roll back to 3.28?
4.06 seem to work great here with Fireface 802 and Reaper! M1 Mini with Monterey soon to be Ventura.
I tried to roll back the drivers, installing 3.28, but now Total Mix is crashing once I plug the UCX.
It is working fine on an older machine. What should I do?
Unplug the DF USB while testing/installing, make sure the UCX gets a good and not shared USB port. Which TotalMix version is there now?
It was a software issue. It's working fine now after I removed everything I found in the library, including the last.FirefaceUCX.xml. Will keep testing the beta now and see if the previous issue (that it was only sometimes not recognised after some time using it) also disappeared.
Old user upgrading to M1 machine here.
Is the beta stable enough for normal use or should most users still go with the reduced security and old kext driver?
Beginning of rant
I can't believe the native driver is still in beta, it's not like the m1 machines came yesterday and it's not like this is a cheap soundinterace. In fact, cheaper brands have native drivers ready. Why is this taking so long?
End of rant.
Old user upgrading to M1 machine here.
Is the beta stable enough for normal use or should most users still go with the reduced security and old kext driver?
Beginning of rant
I can't believe the native driver is still in beta, it's not like the m1 machines came yesterday and it's not like this is a cheap soundinterace. In fact, cheaper brands have native drivers ready. Why is this taking so long?
End of rant.
Counter rant: The MX machines has been supported since almost day 1! The new driver is about the upcoming (who knows when) situation when Apple is disbanding the kernal driver support. RME has nothing to do with this!
tigersoul wrote:Old user upgrading to M1 machine here.
Is the beta stable enough for normal use or should most users still go with the reduced security and old kext driver?
Beginning of rant
I can't believe the native driver is still in beta, it's not like the m1 machines came yesterday and it's not like this is a cheap soundinterace. In fact, cheaper brands have native drivers ready. Why is this taking so long?
End of rant.
Counter rant: The MX machines has been supported since almost day 1! The new driver is about the upcoming (who knows when) situation when Apple is disbanding the kernal driver support. RME has nothing to do with this!
Well...
Yes and no. Apple has said that kext drivers are yesterday since years now. It's not news. Users have to go into recovery on their machines to enable the old driver to run. This is probably feeling downright like a hack to many. I feel that the current way of writing a driver shouldn't be a beta by now.
Either way. That was just the rant. How is the beta running for people? I'd certainly prefer to use a driver written for the current state of things. Kext is always a risk. For instability and issues.
the beta is running fine for me now. probably more stable than most non beta drivers from other brands 
UFX+ and 12mic connected via MADI coax failing to synchronize with 44.1 kHz.
Green led on UFX is blinking. Sample rate on 12mic in browser and on display of UFX+ is showing 32.0 kHz.
FF USB setting shows 44.1kHz.
Connecting with thunderbolt is working fine in 44.1
I stepped in against my better instincts and installed this beta on my Mac Studio. I really hate issues and instability, but I am very grateful to RME for having supporting with drivers even your old PCI-cards for a long time. So I decided to help out with testing. So far no issues detected using standard apps and Cubase on my Fireface 802. BTW, It would be really cool if you could update Totalmix with a multiband EQ on the outputs so we can do speaker calibration in the future.
The problem I have is that there are occasional jumps/glitches even though I listen to music normally with the help of Apple Music.
Equipment - RME Babyface (2011)
Computer - Mac - operating system - ventura 13.1.
I tried to change cables to update a version but can't solve the problem even with other versions
The problem I have is that there are occasional jumps/glitches even though I listen to music normally with the help of Apple Music.
Equipment - RME Babyface (2011)
Computer - Mac - operating system - ventura 13.1.I tried to change cables to update a version but can't solve the problem even with other versions
I'm back to having this issue as well, even with 0 plugins, and no matter what cable or USB port I use. Just random dropouts both playback and recording. Happens regardless of sample rate or buffer size. Just did a test at 48k/2048 and still got a dropout during recording. Also on 13.1, but with UCX II.
ofekag wrote:The problem I have is that there are occasional jumps/glitches even though I listen to music normally with the help of Apple Music.
Equipment - RME Babyface (2011)
Computer - Mac - operating system - ventura 13.1.I tried to change cables to update a version but can't solve the problem even with other versions
I'm back to having this issue as well, even with 0 plugins, and no matter what cable or USB port I use. Just random dropouts both playback and recording. Happens regardless of sample rate or buffer size. Just did a test at 48k/2048 and still got a dropout during recording. Also on 13.1, but with UCX II.
I see this too. However, I don't think it relates to this beta, as it did it with previous versions.
It appears to relate to both system alert sounds and potentially web browsing. (not necessarily the sound being played in browsing, but scrolling pages).
So I am suggesting this is OS related. (I initially saw it on Monterey and now Ventura).
Are you guys using aggregate devices by any chance?
carich wrote:Tried v4.06 with an M1 Pro running MacOS 12.6 connected to a MADIface XT.
High-numbered input channels (193-196) now appear in their "fixed" positions, but
High-numbered playback channels (193-198) still move to channels 97-102 at sample rates > 48KHz
(at least in DigiCheck NG v0.89 beta 1).Yes, DigiCheck NG will get an update.
Tried DigiCheck NG v0.891 released 2023-01-09. High-numbered playback channels (193-198) still move to channels 97-102 at sample rates > 48KHz.
After a few days of testing without issues yesterday I began to experience problem with dropout in sound playback. I got it today as well. It seems like these short bursts of milliseconds without sound occur more when i have Safari open and read text from webpages while listen to sound from Spotify or Apple Music.
Hi,
i still get every time i restart my macbook M1 the warning:
i run MacOS Ventura 13.1 with latest RME Drivers 4.06 and Firmware with Babyface Pro FS
is there some file i need to disable / delete to prevent this error message?
See manual, lists of files to remove is in there.
MC wrote:carich wrote:Tried v4.06 with an M1 Pro running MacOS 12.6 connected to a MADIface XT.
High-numbered input channels (193-196) now appear in their "fixed" positions, but
High-numbered playback channels (193-198) still move to channels 97-102 at sample rates > 48KHz
(at least in DigiCheck NG v0.89 beta 1).Yes, DigiCheck NG will get an update.
Tried DigiCheck NG v0.891 released 2023-01-09. High-numbered playback channels (193-198) still move to channels 97-102 at sample rates > 48KHz.
Sorry for that, next version, soon.
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