Same here. Agree then. Browsing or mail will work anyways:)
And seems have to move to usb/TB eventually.

This device has been such an amazing and perfect workhorse, and it's a damn shame Apple are killing off connectivity for it (most hardcore FF800 heads have a TB3 ext PCI chassis to use TI-based firewire cards to keep on truckin' ).

Since this may finally be the "end of the road" on MacOS capabilities to allow FF800 to go another decade --- I wonder if we could perhaps rally RME to offer a one-time discount to existing FF8000 owners to make the move to their newer interfaces?

Good news for anyone who has an RME Fireface 800 interface.

I can confirm that it is working without the slightest problem with MacOS Ventura.

I use the apple USB-C->thunderbolt cable -> Firewire -> Thunderbolt -> Firewire 800 cable snake combination and it is working absolutely brilliantly.

I am using Ableton 11 and it found the Fireface 800 without a hitch. All plugins seem to work fine so far and I am very relieved as the rumours made me think I would have to buy a new sound interface!

So feel free to upgrade if you wish. :-)

Great news... Thanks mate... I have the same connection like you... Happy to hear that... :))

Hi man. Can you please contact me on private? I have MacBook Pro 2022 M2 with ventura and Fireface 800.
Had download the last driver and bought all cables but when I connect the apps doesent open like total mix etc. can you please help me ?

Fireface 800 seems to work flawlessly with Ventura 13.1 on iMac i7. 

Connecting the Fireface by chaining a Firewire 800 -> Thunderbolt adapter into a Thunderbolt -> USB-C adapter. 

After upgrading the Mac OS to Ventura, powered up the Fireface 800 which immediately launched the RME TotalMix and RME Fireface Setting apps in the background.  All of the inputs show up in Logic and so far everything seems to work just as before the Ventura upgrade.

Thanks guys for posting your findings and thanks RME for building the brilliant Fireface 800! 

Cheers all!

Hi! Welcome to the forum.
At least it seems the installation process went well so far. Anyway strange behaviour…
Do I get it right, the SPDIF input is the only working one? No signal neither from the analog 1-8 inputs nor from ADAT 1-8?
On your previous computer there was all ok? What OS was on there?
The firmware version is a point to check for sure.
Then also the settings in Mac audio/midi app, are there all channels active?
To go further some screenshots would be very helpful (TotalMix window, Fireface settings, audio/midi setup).

I'm sorry... I don't find the driver for fireface 800 with Ventura 13.3.1.
Could you help me?
thanks

I can't install driver 341.
This message appears: "installation failed".

This may be a possible solution for you?  I've seen a few positive mentions on other forums but .. I haven't tried it myself.

https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/721151

I'm using a Hackintosh with OpenCore so I'll see if I can just install the unmodified kext (from Monterey) with OpenCore as OpenCore has no problem injecting Kexts into MacOS.

Apple really has Zero concern for their users.  After they killed Final Cut Pro 64-bit in favor of the dumbed down consumer parody of Final Cut Pro - my MacPro loaded with ECC RAM became a whole lot less useful .. so I switched all video production to Windows and haven't looked back.

Logic Pro X is still a great program though - and the Only reason I stay in the Apple eco system - as their software for iPad/iPhone/Watch etc. is just so poorly designed .. as if by .. Children it's so buggy and problematic.

Returning to this thread to make mention of FF800 and upcoming MacOS Sonoma.

I intend to install a mature beta of this on my one of my main audio Apple Silicon Macs in a month or so, and test.   I expect our time may be running (or might have already run...) out on this amazing legacy interface (FF 800) working on this OS.   But we will know for sure soon, so people can plan.   

Take a moment to appreciate this amazing gear, it lived through something like 14 OS releases and STILL even worked natively on Apple Silicon recently.

Anyway, hope to know more in a few weeks.  Watch this space.

FYI my connection chain is: Mac Studio M1 Ultra (and MBP 14 M1 Max at other times) ---> Thunderbolt to PCI Chassis ---> TI chip-based FireWire 800 PCI Express card ---> RME FF800.   

I have had 100% reliability with the above setup, which I arrived at after giving-up on using Apple's original FW-to-Thunderbolt adapter connected to their --> TB to TB3 adapter.

I will be back by sometime in July to report how it works on a mature MacOS Sonoma beta, but everyone should be prepared that Ventura might have been our last most recent compatible OS. 

It is fair to RME to assume that  their Apple Silicon / Ventura legacy driver extension was a 100% gift to the longtime FF800 Mac user comminuted.  And if Sonoma removes the ability for these drivers to work, it is not on RME...but on Apple. 

At any rate, after a decade and-a-half, this will have been by far the best audio gear experience I have ever had.  FF800 Never let me down. 

Maybe RME could consider having some possible upgrades promotions by Xmas, for loyal FF 800 Mac holdouts who never upgraded?  Just an idea, at any rate once-again I want to thank RME the RME FF800.   See you all in July...

I am in the same boat with an M2 Mini and FF800 (although using the FW -> TB2 -> TB3 adapter chain), definitely hoping to find out if Sonoma is still going to allow legacy KEXTs from RME to work, or if this is the end of the line and an 802 FS needs to find it's way to my rig... 

Absolutely nothing wrong with the FF800; I've had mine for almost 20 years at this point and it is still an amazing interface so I'm also really hoping we might be able to stretch a little further. 

I'd be very appreciative if you have any additional info from your testing!!!

Thanks!
bax

Hey guys my DEEPEST APOLOGIES for not updating this post earlier this summer in my plans to test Sonoma Dev Beta with FF800.  It didn't 100% work at first in July, and I was disheartened but then found there was a bug in Thunderbolt-to-PCI chassis (how I use my FF800) driver instantiation in Sonoma Beta.  That got fixed in late July or Aug, and I was able to see/use my FF800 just fine as always, on my test machine.

Today I further confirmed this by moving my main rigs (Mac Studio and MBP 14 both M1 chips) to the released Sonoma and my FF800 works fine from both.  Here is the caveat to my particular FF800 Chain -- because I doubt using ANY Apple Firewire adapters would EVER work going forward.  This is how I am working with FF800:

My main connection chain is a Mac Studio M1 Ultra (and MBP 14 M1 Max at other times) ---> Thunderbolt to PCI Chassis ---> TI chip-based FireWire 800 PCI Express card ---> RME FF800. 

Further, on Apple Silicon Macs you MUST take an additional step to enable the RME System Extension: you MUST reboot and adjust your driver extension security level using the Startup Security Utility -- if you don't, neither Ventura nor Sonoma allows the FF800 System Extension (kernel driver) to load.  MacOS Ventura/Sonoma actually walk you through the steps, after FF800 driver installation completes - but Apple / RME are not going to bail you out if you cannot do this step (it worked for me on two Macs).  Note: if you already did this on Ventura in the past year, you won't have to do it again after Sonoma upgrade.

RME info for doing the above reboot steps (only needed for legacy drivers, btw, their current drivers do not need this) for the Startup Security Utility is here:
https://www.rme-audio.de/rme-macos.html/

Note: this technically, according to Apple, reduces your Security somewhat (because modern Malware may try to install unsigned System Extensions).  The remedy for this is: don't EVER install anything unsigned, other than these drivers, EVER.  And you will be fine.  If your Studio setup has other people installing things from all over the place - then I don't know what to tell you.

The above is how I got all this to work in Ventura, and now Sonoma.  And, again, I did not have to re-install the last RME drivers or anything on existing systems (nor did I have to re-do the Security Startup Utility steps above -- that is only needed on fresh driver installs).  So if you already had FF800 working on Ventura, you're golden and good-to-go for upgrading.   As always, YMMV and I advise that you make sure you always check the TotalMix forum in here, to download the latest updates to Mac version of TotalMix -- because the last FF800 drivers (released in 2021) contain and older version of TM.   And, OF COURSE, always back up before upgrading your MacOS!!

So, to recap, we MacOS FF800 users live to fight another year -- with the connection chain above, anyway. I really doubt Firewire adapters will work anymore, but PCI chassis w/ a TI chip-based PCI Firewire Card DOES.

But DO REMEMBER: Apple officially does not support Firewire peripherals, and this is an EOL interface (as gloriously beautiful and powerful as it still is...) and functions on borrowed time.  So our blessing could go away at ANY TIME with ANY future MacOS update (including Sonoma updates).  So, always back-up your system, and be cautious and test.

If Apple keeps this loophole (PCI --> Firewire 800 cards) working -- RME may have to just bite the bullet and give us a discount program to turn in our trusty FF800s for their latest-gen gear.  lol

Peace out, and good luck everyone!

Thank you for posting this MC!  I looked around but didn't see it - revising my post above to go here instead.

Because in the early 2000s FireWire was the standard for multichannel audio interfaces. USB 2.0 was just newly introduced and not yet established for such purposes. Fireface UC as the first RME interface with USB 2.0 was introduced around 2009/10 as far I know. Fireface 800 is much older.

Hello everybody!
I´m new at this forum and a bit late for this discussion.
I still run my rme Fireface 800 with os Catalina. After reading this, I thought about updating to os Ventura, since you all wrote, it's running without problems.

My two questions: My computers are Macbook pro 2019  and Mac mini with intel chips. Does it matter if it's not an m1 or further chip? So is it also running with intel?

Thx for any hints!

Second: I´ve read, you all use the 3.41 driver. I just found the download for the 3.39.1 driver as latest version. Can anybody kindly send a link, where to find the 3.41