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Topic: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Hi,

I just get the UFX+ and I cant get it work.
I need a 5 meters cable to go from my desk to the machine room, I tried different settings.

1-plug directly on my PC with the inbox short cable : UFX shows as an UFX USB 3, working
2-plug with a 5 meters extension USB cable : UFX sometime shows as a UFX USB 2, not working, totalmix wont show up, blue screen, computer freeze.
3-plug on an USB 3 powered hub with the short cable then the hub on the 5 meters extension cable : getting windows error message "Super speed Port bandwidth exceeded" : not working
4-plug with short inbox cable into an active USB cable then to the hub : not working

I found that kind of cable, its a fiber glass USB cable

https://www.amazon.com/Optical-Cables-C … B00JOJRF6K

Before to buy it I'd like to know if it can work as those cable are not powered, a solution may be to use the short cable, plug it on the hub then plug the hub to the pc using the usb optical usb cable.

I'd like to know if someone of you guys are using a long USB 3 cable what kind of cable are you using.

any help appreciate

Thanks in advance.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

The Corning cable is used at RME, it works.

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3 Reply by ramses (edited by ramses 2016-11-18 15:32:22)

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Max cable length of USB3 is 3m.

Other question .. why dont you place the UFX+ near your PC ?
XLR cable can be longer ... Or get an additional XTC to be connected by MADI.

Maybe a full Madi solution would have been better ?
Optical cable length up to 2km wouldn't be an issue then.

But I just see, MC has an idea for you, good luck with it !

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Thank you to both of you guys for answering that fast.
I'll give a try with the Corning cable then, I'll check the XTC solution later if the corning is not working.
Can't put the UFX near my pc as the pc are in a machine room, i like clean and quiet control room ;-)

Thanks again!!

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Dont understand 1 point. If UFX+ and PC are in the machine room.
Why you need then >3m between UFX and PC ? Can't you place them nearer ?

Do you use Remote Desktop from a silent PC to access the screen of the remote PC in the control room ?

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

ramses wrote:

Dont understand 1 point. If UFX+ and PC are in the machine room.
Why you need then >3m between UFX and PC ? Can't you place them nearer ?

Do you use Remote Desktop from a silent PC to access the screen of the remote PC in the control room ?

Not exactly. PC are in the machine room and the UFX with me in the control room. Sorry if It was not clear.

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Control room irritated me. I thought you have then one or more recording rooms, control room and machine room.

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ramses wrote:

Control room irritated me. I thought you have then one or more recording rooms, control room and machine room.

Have 2 control rooms and 1 machine room, machine room also used to put PC from the open space office(quiet environment to work for everybody ;-)

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Was about to think ordering such a cable, too, as this sounded to me like a nice galvanic separation between PC and UFX+.
But then I read, that its not fully "optical-only" they also carry a wire to feed devices power up to a certain level.

Surely no issue, but that would have been the value for me to think about getting one.
Otherwise I sit close to everything, I don't have separate rooms yet.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

You can use an active USB hub, plug your devices who need to be powered by the USB on it then plug the hub on the optical USB , et voila ;-)

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Ok, I dont have really good news as I received the optical USB cable and it still not working...
I started by plug the UFX on the USB3 hub then used the optical cable to plug the hub into the pc and it crashed the PC.
I did a reboot then all my USB port was not working anymore.
After several reboot and powered off the PC I finally get all my USB port back.
Then I tried to plug the UFX directly on an USB3 port with the optical cable, lets say that i had to plud it and unplug it into different port to finaly get it recognized as a UFX USB3. At that time i thought, cool it works but...after a  PC reboot the UFX was not there anymore. I get the blue LED on the UFX but nothing in the materials panel, it looked like it was connected but nothing.
Then I tried again to plug and unplug thing, after 5 min the UFX suddenly appear as an UFX USB 2(not 3) then another reboot and i cant get it back...
That said, I definitively have an issue, for me it sounds like a USB3 port issue but who knows.
Any help will be very appreciate.

i run on win7 ultimate pack1
MB:X79-UP4
USB 3 Drivers are: Fresco Logic 3.5.100.0

thanks in advance.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

You need to plug the Corning cable first and only that one as it includes active electronics that need to register in the system (at least two ports and one hub if I remember correctly). After that make sure the UFX is set to USB 3 as interface mode, not Auto. This helps when establishing communication to use the right transfer mode from the beginning. Do not plug a hub at the end of the cable when using the UFX+. USB resources are limited and quickly exhausted.

You also need to check the Device Manager, View changed to 'Connection', that the port that you use for Corning and UFX+ is not a hub internally where other devices are already connected to.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Thanks a lot for your quick reply Matthias, I gonna follow what you say and let you know if it works or not.
Thanks again.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

OK, my UFX+ is finally working.
I put the UFX+ on USB 3 and not auto and it fixed the problem. Looks like the device was not able to select the proper connection when not plugged with the short USB cable.
I'd like to thank you again for your quick reply and your help Matthias! and for sure others who tried to help as well.
Now I'm running some latency test and doing an A/B with the RME UC USB.
I'm running cubase 8 pro on Win7(with waves C6) and surprisingly the UC perform better than the UFX on some buffer setting when the audio guard is not turned on. Anyway this is another topic that i'll post later.
Thanks again.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Not really. You can't compare a 94 channel device and an 18 channel device, even more so as they use different USB transfer modes...

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Hi...

Today I arrived in studio, turned everything on then the UFX didnt show up...
It appear that I can't plug anything else than the UFX on the USB 3 ports.
I have 2 different port on my Mobo but as soon as i plug something on the other port the computer will freeze when the UFX is plugged.
I guess I'm good to buy a USB pci card for my others USB3 devices....
Second problem:
I can't get UFX output or input in the Windows sound panel, I can't see any of the UFX input or output, means that I cant listen to anything inside windows but It does show up in cubase.
So many troubles with that new UFX+
Waiting for your help again Matthias.

Thanks in advance.

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MC wrote:

After that make sure the UFX is set to USB 3 as interface mode, not Auto. This helps when establishing communication to use the right transfer mode from the beginning.

BTW .. Where to configure this with USB3 ?

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

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Hi...

Today I arrived in studio, turned everything on then the UFX didnt show up...
It appear that I can't plug anything else than the UFX on the USB 3 ports.
I have 2 different port on my Mobo but as soon as i plug something on the other port
the computer will freeze when the UFX is plugged.
I guess I'm good to buy a USB pci card for my others USB3 devices....

Second problem:
I can't get UFX output or input in the Windows sound panel, I can't see any of the UFX input or output, means that I cant listen to anything inside windows but It does show up in cubase.
So many troubles with that new UFX+
Waiting for your help again Matthias.

Thanks in advance.

To 1) MC mentioned: "Do not plug a hub at the end of the cable when using the UFX+. USB resources are limited and quickly exhausted." Maybe this is also the case when the UFX+ is connected directly to corning cable straight to the USB3 port.

Did you already try consequently all USB3 ports on your computer ? Maybe you are not on a controller but on a hub port ?

What mainboard do you have ?? Would be interesting to see, what USB ports the board offers and where you can find the intel chipset related ports. These should be used preferrably as the handbook states best compatibility to either Intel or AMD chipset

to 2) did you configure WDM devices in the driver settings dialog ?
AND .. did you configure one tab further speakers ?
Cubase works with ASIO, Windows not. Either you use Applications under Windows which are also ASIO aware.
Like MusicBee as player or you can even tweak the Windows media player to support ASIO ...
Usually nobody likes to go through the Windows Sound system and mixer.
But if you need Inputs and outputs you define WDM devices and define Speakers for Inputs and Outputs.
And then Windows can work with it.
Then execute sound and then you can select the default Output and Input.

Which UFX+ driver do you use now ? I use 0.9583 and TM 1.40b3.

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19 Reply by manels (edited by manels 2016-12-01 11:02:46)

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Thanks for you reply Ramses,


1) I just have 2 USB3 ports on the back of the PC(direct connection to the MB, I tried both and it didn't change anything.
Nothing else beside the UFX is plugged on a USB3 port.
My motherboard is an X79-up4.
USB 3 Drivers are: Fresco Logic 3.5.100.0
not sure if it is what you're asking for.
In device manager it shows like that.

Intel(R) C600/X79 series chipset PCI Express Root Port 7 - 1D1C
     Fresco Logic xHC1(USB3) Controller FL1009 series
          Fresco Logic xHC1(USB3) Root Hub
               Fresco Logic xHC1(USB3) Hub--------------I assume this is the Optical cable
                    RME UFX+ USB 3.0

2) Thanks, I set up the WDM and I can have output in the windows control panel, the only thing is that after a reboot it reset and I need to configure the WDM again, any way to save those setting?

Now the Only way I can get the UFX+ working is to:

1-turn on PC with the UFX unplugged no USB3 plugged
2-Plug the opt USB cable
3-plug the UFX on the USB3 cable, turn on the UFX
4-Restarting the PC

Not really convenient.


Following the step by step experience, a bit long but at least you ll get all the process.

1-PC off   -   UFX off
2-Unload the PC
3-Turn on the PC
4-USB opt cable not there anymore
5- Unplug - Replug the opt cable
6-USB cable shows up
7-Turn on the UFX --->nothing happening(the blue LED is on)
8-restarting PC With UFX still power on
9-UFX Working
10- Restarting PC with UFX power on
11-USB opt cable still in the device manager but the UFX not showing up
12-Turning off and on the UFX doesn't change anything
13-Unplug - replug the USB cable doesn't change anything
14-Restarting the PC with UFX turned on
15-UFX is back
  At that point I did several restarting and the UFX was always there.
16-Shutdown the PC, turn off the UFX
17-turn on PC
18-No more UFX, USB opt cable still in the device manager.
19-Shutdown PC - UFX power on
20-Turn on PC
21-UFX is back

Thanks again for your precious help guys.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Newer driver
https://support.frescologic.com/portal/frescologic/home
Maybe your issue, could be design fault by Fresco/Asus. Is there maybe a power connector for USB3 on the Mobo?
https://support.frescologic.com/portal/ … -connected

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

AFAIR the C600 chipset did not have USB3, which might explain why you only see those Fresco ports. Then an additional USB3 PCIe card might help.

> 2) Thanks, I set up the WDM and I can have output in the windows control panel, the only thing is that after a reboot it reset and I need to configure the WDM again, any way to save those setting?

They are saved automatically in the registry for anyone else. If that doesn't work then you will have to find out why it is blocked for write access of a simple app (the RME Settings dialog).

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

vinark wrote:

Newer driver
https://support.frescologic.com/portal/frescologic/home
Maybe your issue, could be design fault by Fresco/Asus. Is there maybe a power connector for USB3 on the Mobo?
https://support.frescologic.com/portal/ … -connected

I checked on Gigabyte website and the latest USB driver is the one I have installed but I can try with the one on Fresco website, thanks.

@Matthias
AFAIR the C600 chipset did not have USB3, which might explain why you only see those Fresco ports. Then an additional USB3 PCIe card might help.

Not sure to understand what you mean. My Mobo do have USB3 ports
http://www.gigabyte.fr/products/product … id=4288#sp
Two nice blue USB ports where i can read USB3 so I'm not sure to understand.

Can you recommend a PCIe card? thanks

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

What I mean is that  other boards usually have USB 3 taken right from within the Intel chipset. These ports are reference, they (usually) work best. Your board's chipset might not have such ports at all, so Gigbyte had to add an external solution on-board.

I use a (much newer) Fresco USB 3 board as PCIe card myself, works good. Stay away from Asmedia.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Ok, I'll give a try with USB PCi-e card then, don't know what else to do anyway.
Is that one ok Matthias?
http://www.frescologic.com/products_show.php?ms=2

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Yes, I use the EX. Note that the choice of slot is also critical. Motherboards of that generation started to be picky, so you might have to try different slots until the expected performance is reached.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

The Fresco chipset used on your board is FL1009. Going by the name of the PCIe card it seems to use some FL1100 chipset.

http://i.imgur.com/GNjhaLm.jpg

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

I'm totally lost here...
I already bought  a 150$ optical cable and it didn't solve the problem, now I can buy a USB card but it looks like that it won't solve the problem neither.
I try to put the UFX+ on another PC with different Mobo and different USB chipset but it didn't work neither.
I'm sorry to say that but I'm really disappointed.
This morning I went to the studio, I proceed like before to get the UFX working and today my PC crashed again.... 
If someone is using the UFX with a long USB cable here please let me know what mobo or card or cable are you using.
I'm surprised that an expensive pro sound card from RME can't work properly with a long cable...
I really need to solve that problem
thanks in advance

ps:I wish that I'm doing something wrong but I tried everything on different PC and it's still not working(PC not on internet)

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Sorry to say that, but a major part of the problem appears to me, that you use USB3 over the specs.
The higher the bandwidth is, the more sensitive it is according to cable length.
And as nice as the corning solutions might be, there is always a chance that special solutions like this
have their own set of problems.
Even if you use another PC, it will be still a 5m cable being 66% over the specs.

According to the handbook and USB2: if you do not need to record/playback via MADI
a workaround for the time being could be to use USB2, which should be able to handle 5m.

The best solution would be IMHO to build a silent PC which you can place near besides you.
I think for this you can (re-) use most of your components. You only need to invest into proper HW:
- good noise dampened case (i.e. Fractal Design with enough room)
- hybrid power supply where the blower only runs under high loads and should the temperature be critical
  (in my case it runs never)
- very silent blower for case
- very good CPU cooler with silent blower
- SSDs instead of harddisks
and then you are set.

Sorry its in german, but maybe its still readable in terms of components or use google translation.

http://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/inde … mponenten/
http://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/inde … al-Design/
http://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/inde … arrow-ILM/
http://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/inde … -X10SRi-F/

I finetuned this system over a run of 2+ years. The loudest parts are now the harddisks, I need to wait until SSDs become even cheaper or I need to clean-up my data wink

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Hi,

Thanks Ramses for trying to help me but there is no way I gonna put a PC in my control room, I spent too much money in the acoustic stuff and with the AC and so on, but thanks I appreciate the the time you spend on my problem.
So back on track.
I bought a USB pci-e card today with Atron Chipset.
It still not working as it should but somehow I can work.
To get the UFX working I need to first turn on the PC with USB opti unplugged afterward I plug the USB opti(now recognized as an USB (ss) Hub, before it shows up as a Root hub AFAIR) then plug the UFX USB then turn on the UFX.
At that point if I turn off then turn on the UFX, the UFX won't work again.
I noticed that when I don't proceed like that, the UFX wont work but also it fuck up all the USB port from where it was plugged on. At that point I need to restart twice the PC to get the USB ports back.
Well, fingers crossed, will keep you posted and hopefully the UFX will still working.
@Matthias
You said that you were using the corning cable at RME and that it was working, can you tell me how do you use it?

thanks again.

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I have it working under W7 Gigabyte desktop and W10 Dell laptop, both using the Intel USB 3 ports.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

ok, speak to fast...It is not working.
I thought it was working as when I turned on the UFX the totalmix pop up and it shows up in the device manager but I can't get any sound from the UFX, neither in windows or Cubase.
Ok get it Matthias, thanks for the quick reply.
I'm running a Gigabyte desktop as well on W7, I'm guessing that all USB 3 chipset I tried are faulty...Which MOBO is it?

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

I decided to stop experimenting thing to get that UFX working with a long cable so now I just want to know which options do I have to be able to use the UFX on my desk with my PC in the control room.
I was thinking about a patchbay,I need 10 meters to go from my desk to the PC. Do running 10 meters audio cables will damage the audio signal?
I'm looking for all possibilities now...
I plane to build a new PC in the next future based on intel X99 or Z170 I dont think it gonna solved my problem but anyway. I already checked the gigabyte x99 board and they don't have an intel USB chipset they are all buid with Chipset+2 Renesas® USB 3.0 Hubs, the Asus x99 neither...
If I can't find any acceptable solution I think that I just gonna sell my UFX.
Waiting for your advises guys and thanks again for your time.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH. Its Via USB 3 ports suck big time, but the Intel ones work as good as the ones from a Fresco Logic card that I have in one of the PCIe slots (the only one port that worked with that card).

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Sometimes Gigabyte leaves 1 or 2 back panel ports directly connected to the chipset, while others are running via the Renesas hub. You can find out about that by going to the specification list in the manual or on the web-site. Additionally you can get one with Thunderbolt 3, which also means that there are USB 3.1 ports coming directly from the Intel TB+USB3.1 chipset.

Here is one example that offer both option:

Gigabyte GA-X99-Ultra Gaming

Chipset+Intel® USB 3.1 controller:

    1 x USB Type-C™ port on the back panel, with USB 3.1 support
    1 x USB 3.1 Type-A port (red) on the back panel

Chipset+2 Renesas® USB 3.0 Hubs:

    8 x USB 3.0/2.0 ports (4 ports on the back panel, 4 ports available through the internal USB headers)

Chipset:

(!) 2 x USB 3.0/2.0 ports on the back panel
    4 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports available through the internal USB headers

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What about Gigabyte in general ? I read here and there about strange / severe issues, so that I personally would prefer Asus and wouldn't consider taking Gigabyte. But maybe its only me and based what I read.

This is maybe a little bit beyond his problem, but when buying a new mainboard I would perhaps take into consideration and look for an alternative board from Asus and read then as much as possible reviews about those 2 candidates and also ask in recording forums or here whether people have mad good or bad experiences.

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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

I did not recommend Gigabyte. I just said that is the board that I use for testing. Indeed there are many reasons why this board would not be on my list (don't get me started....).

And USB 3.1 currently is either buggy (Intel version) or untested (the other one on one of the motherboards). Most probably wouldn't help someone who already has a problem.

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  • Registered: 2013-03-26
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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

hi,

So I ordered a new USB 3.0 card with Fresco1100 chipset, unfortunately I need to wait 10 days as it was just available in Taiwan(I leave in Shanghai)
Beside that I gonna build a new DAW, anyway I needed a new one for a new guy who gonna work in the studio.
Here is what I end up with, if you have any advice feel free.

case: ATX    Cooler Master HAF 912 
mobo: ASROCK  extreme4/3.1
Proc: x99 6800k 
SSD syst: samsumg pm961   256gb
SSD project: samsumg 950 pro 256gb
RAM: corsaire CMV8GX4M1A2133C15  32gb
PSU: corsaire 650w
Graphic card: nothing fancy didnt choose yet

  • ramses
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Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Better get one 512 GB Samsung PRO .. the higher the capacity, usually the higher the throughput.
http://www.howtogeek.com/248827/why-are … ds-slower/

And in Samsung Magician you can use Rapid Mode (kind of a RAM disk additionally accellerating accesses) only for 1 SSD.
Then the OS, Application and projects benefit all from that acceleration.

As case I would recommend this fractal design. Its large enough so that components inside do not become hot.
Its pre- noice-dampened. And you have a 5/9/12V switch in the front to be able to control the speed of blowers.
Here I use 5V nearly all the time even in summer:
https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/fra … 83667.html

Graphics cars I would use the cheapest MSI because of Zero Fan feature and even if they would blow these
Fans are absolutely silent. With Office and Recording they won't blow anyway.
https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/msi … 14302.html
Or this with the new and faster chipset
https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/msi … 40661.html
There are also 2GB versions which would be ok for Office and Recording.

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14
  • Registered: 2013-03-26
  • Posts: 21

Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

ramses wrote:

Better get one 512 GB Samsung PRO .. the higher the capacity, usually the higher the throughput.
http://www.howtogeek.com/248827/why-are … ds-slower/

And in Samsung Magician you can use Rapid Mode (kind of a RAM disk additionally accellerating accesses) only for 1 SSD.
Then the OS, Application and projects benefit all from that acceleration.

As case I would recommend this fractal design. Its large enough so that components inside do not become hot.
Its pre- noice-dampened. And you have a 5/9/12V switch in the front to be able to control the speed of blowers.
Here I use 5V nearly all the time even in summer:
https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/fra … 83667.html

Graphics cars I would use the cheapest MSI because of Zero Fan feature and even if they would blow these
Fans are absolutely silent. With Office and Recording they won't blow anyway.
https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/msi … 14302.html
Or this with the new and faster chipset
https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/msi … 40661.html
There are also 2GB versions which would be ok for Office and Recording.

Thanks again for you precious feedback,
I was on the 256gb because of budget limitation.
I'll check that case but the control room have AC running at 18deg so I Shouldn't have temp issue.
Thanks for the graphic card link I ll check it out, here again I'm not concern about the noise as the PC will be in control room but it's a good place to start.

Thanks again for the time you spend on helping me, really appreciate.

  • Registered: 2013-03-26
  • Posts: 21

Re: UFX+ crash over long USB 3.0 cable

Ok guys,
The UFX+is stable on the new PC with the optical cable.
I had no luck with the new _USB card with the 1100Fresco chipset on my old PC neither.
So the new set up is.
i7 6700k @4,6ghz  (6h stress test) cpu temp at 56, room temp 26
MB: Asrock extreme4 (with USB3.0 intel chipset)

Now if you don't see me posting here in the next few days it will mean that it's finally working as it should.

Thanks again everybody and hope that post will be useful for other people having the same issue.