I don't see source dependent (Dynamic) Loudness settings at the ADI-2 Pro here, just tried.

On the Pro there are two independent settings for the output channels 1/2 and 3/4, that's it.

I suggest to use different Presets for source switching, bit more to set in the 1st place, but then ...

I would love to have an option of having pre or post FX Spectrum Analyser. At this time it's post FX and that's fine, but I would also like to have pre FX on the screen, coupled with already implemented pre/post volume meters. That would give me all necessary information for my use case. Peak, where that peak is occurring and what actually goes out of the DAC, all in one screen basically. Not much of a use case, it's rather a preference.

Edit: Also, is there a technical limitation on EQ's 24 dB of bandwidth, or it's purely by choice? Mind you, I'm perfectly fine with +12 dB, but could use to go a little bit lower, like -15, or even -18 would be perfect.

+1 although I don't know how viable would that be with HDMI standards changing all the time, and HDMI digital audio extractors are inexpensive anyway

I'm an ADI-2 DAC FS owner and first-time poster, bravo RME on this very well-designed item! I understand 10 band EQ will not be possible due to hardware limitation, my question is on the 2-band bass/treble EQ: is it (or will it be possible) to store settings per-EQ slot? From my understanding, currently I can have 20x 5-band EQ presets, and 3x 2-band EQ presets (Line-Out, Phone, IEM). Would it be possible to store a 2-band EQ linked to each 5-band EQ preset? I hope that makes sense...

You lost me in the third paragraph, sorry.

When all DSP effects are disabled or off (which does not require to use the highest sample rates, but can be done manually by disabling), and volume is set to 0 dB, the unit is at least bit transparent to 24 bits. You can't verify this because the DAC doesn't have any digital output, but the whole thing is internally identical to the Pro, and there you can easily verify the 24 bit transparency via the digital outputs - even with processing on, like Bass/Treble and EQ On but set to 0 dB (24 bit because ADAT/SPDIF/AES are limited to this).

So I don't see how 'unnecessary DSP processing' is still active and causes sound changes.

Also please note this is a feature request thread. Further discussion of perceived sound differences should be in a different thread.

It's truly a wonderful device. My only feature request would be to include the B/T settings as part of the EQ presets. It is a bit annoying if I use different B/T settings for a particular EQ preset and then have to manually change B/T settings when switching to a different EQ preset. I'm sure there's a reason for this, like a hardware limitation. You can only store so much data, after all. However, it would drastically improve the user experience (or at least, mine).

Even if it only stored B/T settings for the first few EQ presets it would be an improvement. That way storage wouldn't need to be allocated for every preset slot, but the presets used the most could still be easily switched.

This is more of a entirely new model request.  A unit that adds a crossover to allow for the mains and subwoofer(s) to be crossed over internally in the digital domain would be incredible.  For those of use using in a home stereo environment, we are forced to use analog crossovers between the mains and subs which limits the ability to integrate for time delays.  Being able to do this in the digital domain with a wide range of slope options would be incredible.  I for one would gladly spend an extra $400-500 to have RME ADI-2 DAC with this feature built in, even if it required making it a full 1u unit because of the extra connections.

If I already didn't have two very nice Rythmik subs, this would be an interesting alternative.  It unfortunately still requires an additional AD/DA conversion and lot of extra cabling to make it work. 

The MiniDSP SHD has this function, but you give up others and is built in China.  While I have no issue with products being built there, I prefer when possible to purchase products made in the EU or USA.  That was a factor that pushed me over to the RME.  I am handling the crossover right now with an outboard analog, which works fine, but think this would be a cool feature for a future generation.

A cool feature, for the one who uses ADI-2 DAC in a familly living room, would be an option to 'lock' the front encoders, excpect volume knob and maybe source selector.
Because children like very much to with knobs, and mess all the settings

Automatic TOGGLE Between default screens ?

Hi, I'm a new RME ADI-2 DAC FS owner nd very pleased with it!

I would appreciate a lot the ability to have automatic toggle between
-Dark detailed screen when not playing a musical track
-and analyzer when playing something
is it something that could be implemented in firmware?

Because:
I like the welcome screen Dark detailed a lot, very useful nd complete informations in a simple way,
when switching on USB or SPDIF source, one can check in a glance global config.
Then when playing music, nothing is better than the analyzer screen, beautiful, informative screen.
A way of automaticaly switching screens, triggered by "playing a track" action would be very appreciated!

best regards,
christophe

Load the desired EQ, save it to whatever Preset slot....

1.
A possible feature request (ADI2 DAC FS) : Crossfeed is greyed out with Line Out, but it would be useful with very directional near-field monitors (especially when set apart due to placing issues on the computer table, eg.), at least with some low settings - it is a setup comparable to headphones settings.   

2.
Inconsistenciy in menu with inactive features at higher (>=705.6 kHz) bitrate settings.
DSD Playback (PCM 705.6 kHz or DSD256 from Jriver):

Generally, when [Bass/Treble] is inactive, it is grayed out, but in Status display in menu level above it "B/T Enable (ON)" the brackets are missing. "EQ (ON)" and "Loudness (ON)" will be displayed correctly, though.   

3.

according to the Manual:

• Manual: At sample rates 705.6 kHz and up Crossfeed or EQ can be active, not both at the same
  time. Bass/Treble and Loudness are not available.

• Reality (Phones % IEM): EQ is available and CrossFeed in Setting submenu is also active (not greyed out, only the selected value is in brackets), it seems  actually be deactivated (I cannot hear any difference), but I would expect it displayed as grey.
  

You can use a "Setup" to configure such a mode.

You can find this in the ADI-2 Dac manual for instance, on page 28 (section 14.2).

That's what I thought. I did see this in the manual but it's just as easy to just manually adjust the volume. It's a lot easier if it could be automatic when analog is selected.

As a linux user I would like to play DSD files (only DoP is possible) in Direct DSD mode. There was an answer in other thread by MC how to it:

"The point is this: if you set the volume to -3.5 dB (not dBr) you can switch in real-time within the menu between Direct DSD and normal DSD. Very easy to hear if it's really worth it to loose the convenience of volume control. No volume change, just DSD converted to PCM or not."

Would it be possible to make an item in Menu where we could "force" Direct DSD mode without setting volume to -3.5dB?
Thank you.

Hi,

I just recently bought an ADI 2 DAC FS (new version) and I am pretty happy with it - thank you for such a great device

Here are a few nitpicks that I have about the ADI 2 DAC - and maybe a way for you to push it even further towards perfection.
I hope these are changeable through firmware updates and not discussed elsewhere. I searched a bit but couldn't find similar discussions:

1. Dim does not activate Loudness compensation
   You can easily verify this by activating loudness, going 20dB above your low volume reference, pushing dim and going 0,5 dB down - the sound changes significantly after the 0,5dB drop.
   In the handbook it is mentioned that you can test the effect of lacking loudness compensation easily via the dim-function.
   While this is true, I think it would be even better, if it was also helpful in finding the right loudness settings.
   And thus my request to make dim honor the loudness settings.

2. Restrictions on equalizer bands
   There are some restrictions on the equalizer bands that seem arbitrary to me:
   Bands 4 & 5 are restricted to frequency > 200Hz and Q <= 5.0.
   All other bands are restricted to frequency > 20Hz and  Q <= 9.9.
   This prevented me from entering the optimal EQ that REW calculated for my room correction (4 sharp dips below 100Hz with Q values as high as 18). There is no real problem here for me, because REW also found usable EQ with only slightly inferior sound quality, but I would still like to be able to correct it even better.
   Thus my request to:
   

   • allow frequencies between 20-20000Hz for all bands

   • allow the same Q values for all bands - preferably up to 19.9
     (I noticed spacing is a little tight on the EQ screen, but to me it looks, like an additional "1" could still fit)
     

3. A little more flexibility for setups would be convenient
   

   • I would like to keep the volume when changing the setup. I find changing setups more convenient than changing EQ presets, because it can be done via hotkeys. Since I use the ADI 2 DAC for room correction with speakers on my standing desk, I am switching setups pretty frequently and then change the volume back to where it was before. While this is really just a minor inconvenience, since the ADI 2 DAC has the best volume control I ever used on an electronic device, this would still be a slight improvement for me.
     There are a few possible variants with varying complexity that I have in mind. If needed, I can go into more detail here.

   • Some of my setups only make sense for a specific output, so it would be nice, if one could choose per setup to keep the current output or select one of the other three on activation.

4. Non-intuitive AutoDark Mode
   Currently, when the device is turned on and in AutoDark Mode, is the only state where there are no visible lights.
   This one is really just cosmetic and I can definitely get used to it. However, with AutoDark Mode, I sometimes stop and think about if I have to turn it on or not. Also, it just feels wrong when it sits on my desk with no visible sign of life. No cold, hard, measured facts here, just emotions - I know, this is dangerous in this forum
   I think the current option to turn all lights off has its use and should definitely stay. What I would love to see here is a second AutoDark Mode setting to choose, if the power button should be lit or not. Alternative or additional options might be, to just light the volume knob or the function keys.
   

I know I'm being really nit picky here - I own the device for two weeks now and have used/tweaked it every day, studied the manual and these are all improvements I can think of. Again, thanks for creating such a great product.

Hey N00b,
thanks for responding. Do you have Loudness enabled?

I just answered this in the other thread you opened, suddenly it disappeared (Mist!), so here again.

I tried to replicate the problem you mention but my observation is different.

The effect of "Loudness" function only relates to the volume figures shown in the display, no matter if achieved by using DIM or turning the dial.
DIM does in fact activate the "Loudness" function.

What's written in the manual page 14 is related to the perceived sound loss effect if not using Loudness at all BTW, you did misunderstand this part.

What might irritate you is, if you have DIM active and turn the volume dial by one click, DIM is disabled and the level jumps up by 20 dB.
The level jump of +20 dB might sound like a sudden bass and treble boost to you, but it's just a level jump.

I tested with ADI-2 Pro, firmware V.97,  shown at start up.

OK, I tried it your way, but with the same, different to your result, on the ADI-2 Pro.

Loudness function always correctly follows the real level like it's visible in the display, no matter if I use DIM or the volume dial.

What really bothers me is the 20 dB level jump when you dial up the volume dial one step, immediately after activating the DIM function.
I don't think this is intentional, I'd consider it a bug.

This bug does not appear if you dial down before dialing up.
In this case DIM is disabled, but without the level jumping.

Too much engineering!

Hello,

would it be possible to programmatically interface with the ADI-2 over the USB port? 
Perhaps via an SDK? 
 
I'd like to retrieve/modify/write parametric EQs without having to fiddle with the knobs or remote, and would be more than happy to write a program to do this if you offer some sort of SDK