Topic: Remote Desktop/Cubase/Total Mix

Hi all. I've spent most of this evening trying to figure this one out. I'm at the stage of complete defeat, perhaps it can't be done or perhaps someone can point me in the right direction!

My main workstation is running cubase 11 on windows 10 in my studio at the bottom of the garden. RME HDSPe AIO up and running with totalmix and ARC USB. No problems there, been using it for years.

I have a Macbook Pro in the house that I can remote desktop into the studio PC with no problems, (configured to play audio on the mac and youtube etc. all work fine) but no sound from Cubase no matter what I try. I have tried routing cubase to adat 7/8 then activating loopback and cue etc.. every possible combo I can think of (as suggested in a thread on this forum) but I can't seem to get anything coming from through the Mac. My understanding is this should be possible, but am I barking up the wrong tree?

Appreciate any insight or help.

Re: Remote Desktop/Cubase/Total Mix

This remote desktop software on mac let you listen youtube music that is running on your PC, is that correct ?

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Re: Remote Desktop/Cubase/Total Mix

waedi wrote:

This remote desktop software on mac let you listen youtube music that is running on your PC, is that correct ?

Correct. Anything that's not ASIO works fine. I guess what I'm trying to do is route ASIO to WDM so the remote desktop connection can route it to my Mac in the same way as YouTube etc..

4 (edited by MetalHeadKeys 2021-06-05 23:37:14)

Re: Remote Desktop/Cubase/Total Mix

guybuss wrote:

Hi all. I've spent most of this evening trying to figure this one out. I'm at the stage of complete defeat, perhaps it can't be done or perhaps someone can point me in the right direction!

My main workstation is running cubase 11 on windows 10 in my studio at the bottom of the garden. RME HDSPe AIO up and running with totalmix and ARC USB. No problems there, been using it for years.

I have a Macbook Pro in the house that I can remote desktop into the studio PC with no problems, (configured to play audio on the mac and youtube etc. all work fine) but no sound from Cubase no matter what I try. I have tried routing cubase to adat 7/8 then activating loopback and cue etc.. every possible combo I can think of (as suggested in a thread on this forum) but I can't seem to get anything coming from through the Mac. My understanding is this should be possible, but am I barking up the wrong tree?

Appreciate any insight or help.

Hello!

How are WDM Devices configured in the HDSP Settings? And which Outputs do you use for Windows?

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Re: Remote Desktop/Cubase/Total Mix

I have WDM configured to use only ADAT 7/8, and windows set to use ADAT 7/8 for windows output.

Re: Remote Desktop/Cubase/Total Mix

Can you try this test?

In your Studio PC,
Set Cubase 's Output to ,let 's say, ADAT 5/6
in TMFX select Output ADAT7/8(third row)
and then raise the fader for Software Playback ADAT5/6(second row), with Output ADAT7/8, selected.

Can you get sound from Cubase, this way, on your Macbook Pro?

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Re: Remote Desktop/Cubase/Total Mix

Thanks MetalHeadKeys, but that doesnt appear to work, I tried every possible combo of cue/loopback etc..

I've read about Banana Voicemeeter elsewhere so perhaps that's something I should look at, although I wanted to avoid any extra software on my main rig.

I get late night calls for edits and bounces, so would be nice to be able to do it from bed without getting up and heading down to the studio! I'd also like to have this working so I can get access through a VPN at some point too for when I'm away.

Appreciate the help I'll keep digging.

8 (edited by hardyroede 2021-06-06 23:11:56)

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Sorry if that question is dumb from a non-Windows user, no ASIO/WDM knowledge here, but: Does your remote software on the Windows rig maybe support none other audio input than inputs 1/2 of the local audio interface(s)? If so, a dedicated virtual routing software could be part of the remedy. In our (Mac-only) setup we run into this constraint with almost all chat / meeting (Teams, Google Meet, Zoom…) and far-end recording apps (Sessionlink, Studiolink) which we want to feed dedicated software returns and mixes from TotalMix to. Our solution is called Loopback, a Mac-only software by Rogue Amoeba which acts like a virtual patchbay between any ins and outs of your audio interface and the individual audio in/out of any app on your machine.

It typically works like this: For any app that only listens to inputs 1/2, you create a dedicated virtual „audio interface“ which looks like a physical soundcard to the app, but in the background is fed exactly the channels you want it to have. You choose that „interface“ as the audio input device or „mic“ within said app, and you’re set. I‘ve read about Windows solutions called „Virtual Cable“ or „Virtual Audio Cable“ which do the same, maybe VoiceMeeter falls into the same category.

You have to handle another layer of complexity, but have to set it only once, and you gain more routing flexibility than with the built-in loopback feature in TotalMix itself. I don’t know exactly what such virtual routing does to latency, probably quite a bit, but in a remote use scenario maybe that isn’t your biggest concern.

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