Is not speculation, is true. Babyface is not available in any store.I told you information 100% true.
Babyface is not going to be in production anymore.

And your proof is what?

The Babyface Pro was already quite a facelift compared to the Babyface, and with the Babyface Pro FS RME has gone one better.

And you think that wasn't much? Really ??? I think RME has improved a lot. May I remind you of the following changes, which you can also read off the product page at any time:
- 2nd reflevel +4 dBu to reduce the output level without too much loss of SNR/dynamics with switch on the bottom side
- SteadyClock FS
- Increase output power, improve THD of both headphone outputs
- Reduction of output impedance from 3.5mm KH output
- Improved SNR of microphone and TRS line inputs
- Improvement of THD of line inputs
- Fastest converters, even faster than those of the flagship interfaces with 6 samples less latency on AD (5/7 samples AD/DA at single speed)
- K-Slot for theft protection.

All the above improvements have been achieved without increasing the power consumption of the interface !!!
So and you think that was nothing ?

You should also bear in mind that the Babyface Pro FS can still be bus-powered on USB2. Therefore, it is not possible to make major changes to the design at will.

Well there I have some doubts as a full implementation of DSP chip would require more power from USB2.
At the moment it's still the case that EQ is being done in the device and Reverbs/Dynamics through the driver (using the PCs CPU).

We'll see ;-)

You could be starting rumours. That dealer may have just been speculating without any inside information. There are shortages with lots of music gear not just RME as result of a global chip shortage. Also AFAIK the BFP already has on board DSP, it is used for the EQs. It is not as powerful as the DSP on the UFX.

I don’t know about the Mac but you can record all 4 inputs at the same time. They are all independent.

How do I make this work with a smart TV? I cannot seem to find any useful information on the internet or in the manual.

1. it is powered via usb from the tv to the unit.
2. I have optical out from the TV into the BF. I get signal, as in, I see the bars on the input side light up when i move selection on my TV, but no signal and no sound is going to 1/2 output (xlr). Is this even possible? The XLR cables that are outputting to my speakers.
3. The Opt dot is solid green, so it's synced by my tv.

It is a sony bravia, google TV, so it's android so it's in stand-alone mode.

What am I missing here?

Hi everyone,
I'm new to the family. I have a question about the Babyface pro Fs which may seem useless but as I am not indifferent to office aesthetics.

I've had my darling Babyface pro fs for barely a month andand I notice that the ''select'' and ''dim'' buttons are discolored.

Is this normal? If it continues like this, at the end of the year there will not be the slightest trace of the designation of its 2 buttons. I specify that I do not have sweaty hands and I have never used products (gel or solvent).

In terms of sound, it is incredible but at 700€ can this kind of detail be negligible in production Chain?

Please enlighten me guys

I don't know how to post a photo

https://ibb.co/hf2hBgX
https://ibb.co/WB5nkF3
https://ibb.co/CMcvGnd

You can see the difference with the buttons above. (My Pixel smartphone tends to overdo the photo processing) It is visually more obvious with the naked eye.

I received this sound card on December 20, 2021
Model : Babyface pro fs

yes, for the moment no one from the team has yet contacted me on the forum. A I'm waiting and i contact them by assistance! I also think it is a small batch of buttons with this defect on which I came across.

I'm not going to make it a state affair (amazing sound card) but if it can be replaced or updated I can send it back and wait

Hi Mc,
I got in touch with your service.
We will see what he offers me with the current stock situation that you highlight.

Peace

Hallo,
ich glaube, die Datei fut_usb_mac.zip für das Babyface Pro FS ist noch alt.

Grüße
Andreas

I just noticed a Firmware update 199, 2022-01-28 and Driver update 1.219, 2021-12-14 for the Baby Face Pro FS.

I am using Driver 1.212 and Hardware revision 130 on my 1 year old BFP FS and everything is working great. I did read the notes but thought i would ask anyway. Should i update both drivers and firmware. Do i need this update or should i just stay as i am now. I noticed ESS is mentioned i gather thats for the ESS Sabre version.

I thought it best to ask if it adds any improvements to my existing setup.

Cheers all.

Hi, I just came across an excellent review of the Babyface Pro FS with the current ESS chip.

https://youtu.be/3i5iS1ULI6Y

The measure of the dynamic range D/A (main output) was stated: 125 dB(A)…supposedly it was remeasured twice.

Is there such a big jump regarding the dynamic range of the D/A output just by using a different chip? To be honest, I doubt it. And I wonder if the ESS chip is capable of such a high dynamic range? And if so, I assume that there have to be additional changes in the internal architecture of the interface. Referring to the change from AKM to ESS at the current ADI 2 PRO, there was not much change.

Don’t get me wrong, the Babyface Pro FS is an excellent sounding interface with the AKM chip, but I was wondering if there is a big jump in the dynamic range with the ESS models.

Thanks
Thorsten

Thanks for clearing that!
The Babyface Pro FS really plays in its own league!

It was already an amazing product, but now that’s the icing on the cake!

You have two XLR inputs on the bfp fs so you can use these. The optical can be adat or spdif. So you would need either a mic preamp that has spdif out or one of the plenty of adat preamps. RME do there own but may be too expensive compared to the price of the bfp. There is the cheaper end with the Behringer ADA8200. You first need to understand what you want and then research as there are single channel, dual channel, eight channel. The max the bfp can do is 8 channels @ 44.1 or 48khz sampling frequency. 4 channels at 96 and 2 channels at 192

Yeah using Windows 10 on a PC. I'm using the latest driver and flash from https://www.rme-audio.de/downloads.html.

After ~7 years with my UCX, I recently picked up a Babyface Pro FS as my current setup doesn't really require the additional I/O on the UCX and I wanted the additional onboard control the BBF offers (very useful to have one-touch mic gain to zero via mix A / B buttons and main output mute via DIM button.) Aware I probably could have accomplished this via Arc remote with the UCX but prefer the simplicity of the BBF all in one approach.

Very impressed with the device except for a couple of things:

1. 'DIM' text has almost completely worn off after ~2-3 weeks of light use. My hands are not abnormally sweaty / acidic and the text on the other buttons shows no signs of wear (and I use these as much as the DIM button) so not too sure what has caused this. Not a big deal.

2. Possibly a fault and the main reason I came here to seek advice - when output level (via main out or headphones) exceeds ~25dBFS (metered in TotalMix), the noise floor / hiss seems to jump up dramatically as if the analogue section for these physical outputs has to jump up a gear (as far as I'm aware D>A converters / signal amplifiers do not require gears so forgive the analogy!).

- There is an overly audible ~1sec hiss after playback is paused.
- The hiss length shortens as device sample rate is increased
- Applying any sort of subtractive EQ within TotalMix on main out and/or headphone out has no effect on the level or frequency content of the hiss.

I made a video to demonstrate the issue but feel free to tell me if my performance expectations are just too high!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e6zpyHLu78

I have the bfp fs and am not hearing this.

Thanks Matthias - yes I have seen that video of Julian's before and figured it might be that, however with my unit the jump is clearly audible (checked with wife to confirm I'm not losing it!), especially if there is less high frequency content in the output signal (i.e recording bass guitar / solo'd kick etc).

FW is 199 as of last night though no difference in this issue since updating. Given the relative level of this noise, is there a chance something isn't quite right with my unit?

I originally made that video to convey the problem to my local distributor for troubleshooting purposes before coming here, so apologies if the levels are a bit off.

I don't have measurement equipment, but if I peak-normalize the audio file I recorded to create the video, the remaining noise is at ~ -47db (peak metered in Pro Tools). Is that higher than it should be?

I meant that I don't have equipment to measure the hardware outputs of the BF; i.e to determine the noise floor post ADC, other than the BF as you mention, which is what I have used to determine that ~ -47dB noise floor.

I normalized the peak of the audio file playing out of the 6.35mm headphone jack routed back to input 3 via TS cable to record it. The ~1sec noise tail on that file then peaks at ~ -47dB, which seems too high.

All I did was raise the level of the audio file to make 0dB my reference point for the noise.

I will remeasure using DigiCheck - apologies if this is the wrong medium for troubleshooting of this nature and thanks for your help.