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Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

We'll check.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

MC wrote:

We'll check.

Thanks. I'm just replying here to make it easier to see if you've added a reply from the main forum view.

103 (edited by kol.ut.shan 2023-03-23 17:04:03)

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

In case you've not seen it, the driver has been released as version 1.08 and can be downloaded via RME website. There is an issue with the link of the driver file though:
it reads

so the domain and download folder is twice in the link so here is the correct path: https:/rme-audio.de/downloads/driver_mac_hdspdk_408.zip

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Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

I don't find this wrong link. Where exactly did you see this?

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

105 (edited by kol.ut.shan 2023-03-24 09:46:05)

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

It was on the driver download page:
https://rme-audio.de/de_driverKit-Info-hdspe.html

but it is fixed, the download of the driver just works now

106 (edited by mlprod 2023-03-25 21:52:43)

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

May I ask what those performance improvements mentioned in the changelog are?

Edit: btw the 1.08 driver is called 4.08 on the main site.

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After testing the 4.24 version on a Mac Studio the last two days, I've to say: Great work!
No issues with drop-outs, the latency reported is spot-on and (at least in my imagination) there is a lower base-line system load.
Why is that noteworthy?

  • My AIO interface is 12+ years old.

  • With expansion cards.

  • It is sitting within a TB3 case.

Still in 2023 everything is working - even with new(er) stuff like the ARC USB.
Thanks for the ongoing support...

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

drvdd wrote:

After testing the 4.24 version on a Mac Studio the last two days, I've to say: Great work!
No issues with drop-outs, the latency reported is spot-on and (at least in my imagination) there is a lower base-line system load.
Why is that noteworthy?

  • My AIO interface is 12+ years old.

  • With expansion cards.

  • It is sitting within a TB3 case.

Still in 2023 everything is working - even with new(er) stuff like the ARC USB.
Thanks for the ongoing support...

4.24 is the kerner driver, this thread is about the driver kit driver.

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

I did a lot of testing of the driver kit version 1.8 and unfortunately have some issues:
- there are still random burps and noise sounds (way less than the versions before though)
- switching between applications can cause clicking sounds
- Meters in TotalMix sometimes blink / flash

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

kol.ut.shan wrote:

I did a lot of testing of the driver kit version 1.8 and unfortunately have some issues:
- there are still random burps and noise sounds (way less than the versions before though)
- switching between applications can cause clicking sounds
- Meters in TotalMix sometimes blink / flash

Have you tried with Ventura 13.3 yet? I saw someone saying they fixed audio glitching.

111 (edited by kol.ut.shan 2023-03-28 19:55:46)

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

I tried with beta 3 and am now installing beta 4 - lets see if that improve things smile


edit: I obviously got that wrong, I was already on 13.3 final and the updater is offering 13.4 to me - but I'm not sure if I'll going to install that already.

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

kol.ut.shan wrote:

I tried with beta 3 and am now installing beta 4 - lets see if that improve things smile

Why not the official version released yesterday?

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

I just edited my post (did not saw your reply) I was already on the release version and mistook 13.4 beta 1 for 13.3 beta 4

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

kol.ut.shan wrote:

I just edited my post (did not saw your reply) I was already on the release version and mistook 13.4 beta 1 for 13.3 beta 4

Ok! Bummer then.

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

...does macos ventura require the new driver kit driver or is it still possible to install the old kernel driver?...

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Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

Scheffkoch wrote:

...does macos ventura require the new driver kit driver or is it still possible to install the old kernel driver?...

The Kernel driver works just fine - running 4.24 under Ventura 13.3

(Yes, this is the Driverkit-Tread. I just wanted to be helpful...)

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

....thanks for your reply!...i didn't want to hijack the thread, i'm just wondering why everyone seems so obsessed with installing a beta driver when there is actually no need to do so...i'm on monterey and 4.24 works perfectly fine but i may upgrade to ventura in the near future so it's good to hear that 4.24 still works...thanks!

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

The need to do so will arise soon enough, when Mac OS stops working with the old drivers...

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

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Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

RME Support wrote:

The need to do so will arise soon enough, when Mac OS stops working with the old drivers...

This is my thinking too. I'm normally not too afraid to try new software (I do a lot of beta testing for audio apps/plugins) but between the (in my opinion) complicated process of converting from the old drivers to the new drivers, and the reports of dropouts and performance issues with the new drivers, I'm not too interested in trying the new drivers right now on my 2019 Intel Mac Pro when it's working OK and I'm very busy.

My current plan is to just install the new drivers right away when I get either a new M2 Mac Pro when they are ready, or a Mac Studio. I will decide once the new Mac Pro is announced and more details are available.

I hope the new drivers are as stable as the old drivers by that time. Any reports on progress or findings from RME would be great.

The old drivers I have are amazingly stable. I've recorded thousands of hours of masters from my analog chain at 96k with some plugins running live and there is NEVER an issue.

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

Jperkins wrote:
RME Support wrote:

The need to do so will arise soon enough, when Mac OS stops working with the old drivers...

This is my thinking too. I'm normally not too afraid to try new drivers but between the (in my opinion) complicated process of converting from the old drivers to the new drivers, and the reports of dropouts and performance issues with the new drivers, I'm not too interested in trying the new drivers right now on my 2019 Intel Mac Pro when it's working OK and I'm very busy.

My current plan is to just install the new drivers right away when I get either a new M2 Mac Pro when they are ready, or a Mac Studio. I will decide once the new Mac Pro is announced and more details are available.

I hope the new drivers are as stable as the old drivers by that time. Any reports on progress or findings from RME would be great.

The old drivers I have are amazingly stable. I've recorded thousands of hours of masters from my analog chain at 96k with some plugins running live and there is NEVER an issue.

Totally agree, currently using the old style drivers on my M1 Max MBP / Ventura which is absolutely great. But getting a bit worried by these user reports + my own tests of a previous version of the driver. Hopefully you (RME) can make it as stable and dropout-free as before whenever we no longer have a choice.

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

Scheffkoch wrote:

....thanks for your reply!...i didn't want to hijack the thread, i'm just wondering why everyone seems so obsessed with installing a beta driver when there is actually no need to do so...i'm on monterey and 4.24 works perfectly fine but i may upgrade to ventura in the near future so it's good to hear that 4.24 still works...thanks!

In my case, it's the only way I can aggregate my 3 Multifaces with Cubase.

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Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

Could use some advice from this group.

I am in the process of upgrading from an older mac (2018 mini 10.15.7) to a new M2 (13.3)

current setup:
- mac mini 2018 intel with HDSPe MADI FX
- OS 10.15.7
- firmware v91
- driver 1.28

If I upgrade my card to the new driverkit firmware in order to test with the driverkit user space drivers on 13.3, will it still work properly with the older drivers on 10.15.7? I am paranoid about losing the stability on my older production system before I am ready to commission the new one.

any advice gratefully received. I am hoping to use the long easter weekend to effect the upgrade if all goes well.

If the advice is to stay with the kernel driver im ok with that!

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It will not work with 1.28, but under 13.3 you can flash back to the former firmware (Legacy) - then it will work again.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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I'm experiencing the same 'HDSPe Settings' App not opening with the latest officially released drivers - HDSPe Madi Fx Card in a Sonnet case, macOS 13.3.1, MBP M2. What's the recommended way forward? Seems mlprod switched to an earlier version - is this the way to go for now?

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

An official update on this from RME would be great. RME drivers are known for being extremely stable but the situation here has me concerned about stability/dropouts in the near future when moving to the newer driver kit.

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

mg_ wrote:

I'm experiencing the same 'HDSPe Settings' App not opening with the latest officially released drivers - HDSPe Madi Fx Card in a Sonnet case, macOS 13.3.1, MBP M2. What's the recommended way forward? Seems mlprod switched to an earlier version - is this the way to go for now?

I think that was a bug with multiple cards setup that was fixed.

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

Jperkins wrote:

An official update on this from RME would be great. RME drivers are known for being extremely stable but the situation here has me concerned about stability/dropouts in the near future when moving to the newer driver kit.

I haven't tried the newest DK driver (1.08), no time yet...

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

I'm hoping this is this the correct place to post this question?
My ADI-2 Pro FS been playing very nicely with Antelope and UAD devices as an aggregate device in Mac Mohave (cubase). Flawless.

Which version of the RME Driver will stand me in best stead for recreating this on the m2 mac mini ventura? Currently can not seem to pair the RME in any configuration that works (other than completely by itself) - I'd like to continue using 120 channels... not 2! I'm really struggling... and hit a brick wall,

My M2 mac mini been sat as a doorstop for the past few months as I scratch my head. Any ideas? Could it be driver related?

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The ADI-2 Pro does not have any (Mac) driver, so if there is an issue it must be something else.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

I'm hitting a problem on 1.08, which I'm fairly sure I didn't hit on 1.07.

I've been mentioning a problem with my 3 Multifaces, with their HDSPe cards in a Sonnet Express III chassis, where one of the cards has a relatively high noise floor. On 1.07, rebooting the Mac cured it, but now I have to reboot maybe 4 times to clear the problem.

I'm guessing that part of the problem is that the Express III chassis only powers-up when the Mac powers up, so there's a sequencing issue. The cards don't run until MacOS has essentially already started.

Any thoughts on why 1.08 might be worse in this respect? ...or maybe it's a relatively new MacOS update applying power to the Thunderbolt connecting later than it did before?

Re: New macOS RME HDSPe series driver – public beta test (1.07)

I'm aware my setup is "a bit unofficial" being a Mac Pro 5,1(2012) with a current version of Monterey installed(via OpenCore), but i'd like to report that software playback doesn't seem to work with a 1.08 driver and my AIO, maybe because the card is recognised as a thunderbolt device and my Mac isn't really compatible with it. I can reroute the signal via built-in SPDIF out and into the AIO and it seems to work fine, but can't find a way to make software playback work. Anyway, i'm back to the kext driver and everything is fine. Not sure it's even worth investigating since installing newer versions of MacOS or even Ventura on such old hardware that is no longer supported officially by Apple is already bit of a hassle and kinda pointless, but reporting my findings nonetheless.