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Hello Dear Community,
As I think you know, macOS Sonoma has become available for upgrades on Mac computers.
I currently have Ventura, and my question is: If I upgrade to Somona, is my RME UFX + sound card still compatible?
Thank you.
Yes
Owners of Fireface 800 reported success using their unit with the two thunderbolt adapters on Sonoma.
This is excellent news. I will also do the upgrade over the weekend. Thank you!
I think it should work. But - sorry waedi - the old Firefaces 800 and 400 don't use the same drivers than the UFX+, so this is not really a confirmation.
@TheArtMusicRecords: how do you have connected the UFX+ to the Mac, what driver is installed? USB 3 or Thunderbolt?
I was keen on testing to see if Sonoma would be better for the Fireface802 drivers, but I have read about issues with Steinberg software so I will wait for that go get resolved first.
UFX+ works perfectly here via USB on Sonoma
Everything works well for me too. I connected the UFX+ to the Mac with USB and installed both USB 3 and Thunderbolt.
I think it should work. But - sorry waedi - the old Firefaces 800 and 400 don't use the same drivers than the UFX+, so this is not really a confirmation.
@TheArtMusicRecords: how do you have connected the UFX+ to the Mac, what driver is installed? USB 3 or Thunderbolt?
Hello,
I am also looking for confirmation that my UCX will work with Mac OS Sonoma. When I start up my UCX on Mac OS Ventura I get a legacy warning saying that the UCX software extension will not be compatible with future updates i.e. Mac OS Sonoma
Here's the link https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT210999
I would look into this if I had the time but just too busy to spend time researching at the moment.
I am on an M1 Mac Mini looking to install the new Mac OS Sonoma. I have a UCX and an ADI-2 DAC FS.
Kind regards
Rodney
You don't have to spend time on research, the manufacturer of your interface does this for you.
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 63#p208363
Hi waedi,
Thank you for the link
I have updated from driver 4.08 to 4.09
Kind regards
Rodney
Hi waedi,
Thank you for the link
I have updated from driver 4.08 to 4.09
Kind regards
Rodney
please report if your unit works then, thanks
Also looking for confirmation for Sonoma, but on a UFXIII on USB.
Still on Monterey and have been getting dropouts since I purchased the interface.
Hoping Sonoma will solve these problems.
UFX III works on Sonoma. At least works with my config.
UFX III works on Sonoma. At least works with my config.
And do you use the driver 409 ?
UFX III works on Sonoma. At least works with my config.
Can you share your config?
Which driver?
Are you on a Apple Silicon mac?
M1 or M2?
Did you even read what you quoted? And what is the relation to what you wrote?
Just being curious if there is any improvement done in their plugins and if companies share tips.
A driver is a driver, an application is an application. You elaborated on RME drivers, but you quote something about Eventide plugins, which are applications. Driver and application coding are different things, have different technical/coding requirements and need different developer skills.
Incidentally, behind such advertising statements is nothing more than the statement that the application is supported under Sonoma, can be started on the computer and works in principle. But how that then works under load or in interaction with other applications / DAW is another thing. Furthermore, an application cannot fix any Apple problems in the area of memory compression and what not (which led finally to issues).
In the end, Apple seems to have fixed something in Sonoma (so that EDIT: some issues were gone for some people). Eventide says no more and no less in their advertisement that their products run under Sonoma. Additionally, they point out that not all DAWs support Sonoma yet. This hint is most likely meant to prevent any DAW issues from ending up in their support area.
In the end, Apple seems to have fixed something in Sonoma (therefore the positive user feedback in this forum)...
Not in every case, there are users still having issues or, even worse, having issues for the first time after updating to Sonoma…
ramses wrote:In the end, Apple seems to have fixed something in Sonoma (therefore the positive user feedback in this forum)...
Not in every case, there are users still having issues or, even worse, having issues for the first time after updating to Sonoma…
Oh, thanks, then I had it wrong in my mind. I will remove this from the post, not to create any confusion.
My post had a different purpose anyway, as I also could not understand the rationale behind waedi's posting.
Oh, thanks, then I had it wrong in my mind.
Not entirely wrong. I think for most users which had issues with Monterey and/or Ventura, the Sonoma update was indeed an improvement.
Hello,
I have accidental disconnection with my fireface 800 since i have bought a new 2021 M1 imac with ventura.I have the two adaptators to connect my FF800 to my imac. Before i had a Imac 2011 and my sound card worked fine.
I don't know why buy i can have connection with my FF800 during some days and suddenly i have the red led HOST on. I have upgraded to Sonoma buy the problem is the same.
If i connect my FF800 to my Macbook pro 2011 that works fine.
i have the last driver from 2021-11-10 and the last firmware 2012-05-22.
Someone have a idea to solve my problem ? As i can see on this forum, the FF800 is compatible with Sonoma.
thanks
Are you using Apple adapters?
Are you using Apple adapters?
Yes .
Hello, this morning the FF800 worked suddenly (after few minutes from the launching of my imac).
I tried to disconnect it and reconnect it to see if the imac detect it but the FF800 remained extinct.
https://youtu.be/6MSVOHX2w_E
After few minutes it suddenly turn on ! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kZrZcsBXwtk
Hi Moua pouet,
does that happen during normal operation?
I'm asking because I have the red host light sometimes when the iMac M1 falls asleep. I wouldn't call that a problem but normal behaviour. The FF 800 is back on immediately after the iMac woke up when moving the mouse or pressing a key.
What is your startup sequence? I start the iMac first, wait until it is fully booted, then switch on the Fireface. Then the Fireface settings and Totalmix start and their respective windows close automatically.
I have no problems with the Fireface 800 and the iMac M1 with Sonoma and hadn't so with Ventura.
P.S.: I don't know if it is a good idea to fumble with the connections when everything is powered on and to bend and wiggle on the plugs like you do in your YT video. At least I wouldn't do that. It hurts watching that. It would be no wonder things break sooner or later.
Hi Moua pouet,
does that happen during normal operation?
I'm asking because I have the red host light sometimes when the iMac M1 falls asleep. I wouldn't call that a problem but normal behaviour. The FF 800 is back on immediately after the iMac woke up when moving the mouse or pressing a key.
What is your startup sequence? I start the iMac first, wait until it is fully booted, then switch on the Fireface. Then the Fireface settings and Totalmix start and their respective windows close automatically.
I have no problems with the Fireface 800 and the iMac M1 with Sonoma and hadn't so with Ventura.
P.S.: I don't know if it is a good idea to fumble with the connections when everything is powered on and to bend and wiggle on the plugs like you do in your YT video. At least I wouldn't do that. It hurts watching that. It would be no wonder things break sooner or later.
After few weeks with no problem, the red host led is on again.
I don't understand what is the problem. On my old mac book pro from 2011 with high sierra the FF800 is detected.
I don't understand that despite i approve RME GmbH it doesn't launch. https://ibb.co/zXkDdkx
Are the Apple adapters itself appearing in the MacOS system report ?
Only adapter connected without the FF800
Adapter can be broken or cable or Firewire port of the interface.
Adapter can be broken or cable or Firewire port of the interface.
Would be no wonder (at least to me). See his Youtube vidoes from a few posts earlier.
https://youtu.be/6MSVOHX2w_E
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kZrZcsBXwtk
I can only quote from my own post:
I don't know if it is a good idea to fumble with the connections when everything is powered on and to bend and wiggle on the plugs like you do in your YT video. At least I wouldn't do that. It hurts watching that. It would be no wonder things break sooner or later.
Are the Apple adapters itself appearing in the MacOS system report ?
Only adapter connected without the FF800
Adapter can be broken or cable or Firewire port of the interface.
Is it normaly in "firewire" in the system report ? https://ibb.co/3sZC0hc
What is on Thunderbolt / USB4 ?
What is on Thunderbolt / USB4 ?
I have ordered another adapters to try if mine are faulty.
I have put two New adapter and that doesn't work
I personally had nothing but problems with ventura and sonoma. My most stable workstation is running Big Sur. My advice: use you Mac silicon exclusively for your DAW and run an old IOS.
I am having same issues with ff400, two adapters. Red Light but after a few power cycles it works. It just takes time I suppose for the whole set up to be recognised?
Someone may tell me what i'm doing wrong please ?
I can't see anything you are doing wrong.
it looks like there is something missing in the Security&Privacy settings, the part where an ALLOW button should appear.
The driver readme should tell about.
What I would try :
Disable SIP for the driver installation.
Later on when the interface is working correctly the SIP can be re-enabled.
To do so:
Restart your Mac.
Before OS X starts up, hold down Command-R, and keep it held down until you see an Apple icon and a progress bar. Release. This boots you into Recovery.
From the Utilities menu, select Terminal.
At the prompt type exactly the following and then press Return: csrutil disable
The terminal should display a message that SIP was disabled.
From the menu, select Restart.
For re-enable SIP do the same procedure but use : csrutil enable
Edit : code corrected
... crucial ...
Typo? should be csrutil
Edit: Deleted my last comments, as waedi has corrected his post above.
Hi Maggie
No it was not a typo, there are different websites where I got it from.
On the Apple developers page is the other code with csrutil.
Both work.
This is from Apple developers page :
To disable SIP, do the following:
Restart your computer in Recovery mode.
Launch Terminal from the Utilities menu.
Run the command csrutil disable.
Restart your computer.
To reenable SIP, do the following:
Restart your computer in Recovery mode.
Launch Terminal from the Utilities menu.
Run the command csrutil enable.
Restart your computer.
Hi Maggie
No it was not a typo, there are different websites where I got it from.
On the Apple developers page is the other code with csrutil.
Both work.
This is from Apple developers page :To disable SIP, do the following:
Restart your computer in Recovery mode.
Launch Terminal from the Utilities menu.
Run the command csrutil disable.
Restart your computer.To reenable SIP, do the following:
Restart your computer in Recovery mode.
Launch Terminal from the Utilities menu.
Run the command csrutil enable.
Restart your computer.
I did it but nothing happened:
https://youtu.be/Ko2ROZ4yW3k?si=0uQSmjnnnj9fo6Me
You try the installer RME driver again ?
You wrote, the problem is the installer failed to finish the driver installation,
the reason for disable SIP is to make the driver installation performs successfully.
Hopefully
You try the installer RME driver again ?
You wrote, the problem is the installer failed to finish the driver installation,
the reason for disable SIP is to make the driver installation performs successfully.
Hopefully
Yes, i installed the RME driver after disabled the SIP but nothing happened.
The red HOST Led is constantly on -> FF800 is not physically recognized (by whatever reason)
The red HOST Led is constantly on -> FF800 is not physically recognized (by whatever reason)
I know that thanks.
I have also did that but without success : https://rme-audio.de/rme-macos.html
It makes no sense fiddeling with drivers/sw if the physical connection does not work!
I just saw your video... Dude! What are you doing?
As Apfel already said:
P.S.: I don't know if it is a good idea to fumble with the connections when everything is powered on and to bend and wiggle on the plugs like you do in your YT video. At least I wouldn't do that. It hurts watching that. It would be no wonder things break sooner or later.
It would not be a surprise if a FW Port would be broken.
Anyhow, Could you describe in detail:
- do you use a FW400 to FW800 Cable or a 800 to 800 Cable?
- where exactly the FW-800 Cable is connected (to which port) on the FF800?
- be 100% sure that the FW Cable is Ok
Then, you can try (just for the test):
- poweroff the Fireface800
- poweroff the Mac
- Disconnect all the other cables
- No Hubs or sth!
- Make only needed physically Connections (between your 2 Adapters, the FW Cable and the FF800)
- poweron the mac, wait until it boots and login
- poweron the Unit
- open the terminal in macos and enter:
ioreg -lxw0 | grep Fireface- Report back, what you see (if you see your Fireface in the output -> good! - If not -> no physical connection)
I personally had nothing but problems with ventura and sonoma. My most stable workstation is running Big Sur. My advice: use you Mac silicon exclusively for your DAW and run an old IOS.
Yeah, docdoghouse, thanks for your useful and professional advice again (by "running an old IOS" - whatever you meant with that).
We all needed your hint.
It makes no sense fiddeling with drivers/sw if the physical connection does not work!
I just saw your video... Dude! What are you doing?
As Apfel already said:
P.S.: I don't know if it is a good idea to fumble with the connections when everything is powered on and to bend and wiggle on the plugs like you do in your YT video. At least I wouldn't do that. It hurts watching that. It would be no wonder things break sooner or later.
It would not be a surprise if a FW Port would be broken.
Anyhow, Could you describe in detail:
- do you use a FW400 to FW800 Cable or a 800 to 800 Cable?
- where exactly the FW-800 Cable is connected (to which port) on the FF800?
- be 100% sure that the FW Cable is OkThen, you can try (just for the test):
- poweroff the Fireface800
- poweroff the Mac
- Disconnect all the other cables
- No Hubs or sth!
- Make only needed physically Connections (between your 2 Adapters, the FW Cable and the FF800)
- poweron the mac, wait until it boots and login
- poweron the Unit
- open the terminal in macos and enter:ioreg -lxw0 | grep Fireface- Report back, what you see (if you see your Fireface in the output -> good! - If not -> no physical connection)
Hello, when i have relaunched my imac after deconnected all my hubs my fireface was regognized without any others actions !
I was so happy but during the day, after reconnected all my stuffs the fireface had again the red led on...
So, i have deconnected again all my stuff but the fireface is with the red led on again ...
Now if i open the terminal in macos and enter: ioreg -lxw0 | grep Fireface
Nothing happen.
I use a firewire 400 to firewire 800 cable with the two adaptators.
reconnected all my stuffs the fireface had again the red led on...
Now if i open the terminal in macos and enter: ioreg -lxw0 | grep Fireface
Nothing happen
Already answered more than once!
Is it so hard to understand?
The red HOST Led is constantly on -> FF800 is not physically recognized (by whatever reason)
How could someone help you, if you do not have physical connection? Cables, adapters, hubs, whatever!
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