1 (edited by enriquesilveti 2020-03-12 18:26:42)

Topic: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

I'm using a black ADI-2 PRO FSR in mutichanel USB mode and I'm sending audio to external analog hardware.
The output of this external analog hardware go to ADI-2 PRO FSR analog inputs 1/2 but I don't know if it is possible to monitor the analog inputs 1/2 thru the phones PH3/4.

NOTE: latest firmware plus latest driver (non beta).

Thank you.

Saludos Enrique.

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

There is no TotalMix in the ADI-2 Pro.

Enrique, you just need to set the source for Phones 3/4 on the front panel menu. Press the I/O button, turn the (1) knob to select Phones Out 3/4, then set Source: Analog.

Regards,
Jeff Petersen
Synthax Inc.

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

Jeff wrote:

There is no TotalMix in the ADI-2 Pro.

I didn't read closely, thanks for the correction, Jeff wink

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub13

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

Thank you for the answer Jeff.
(no problem ramses, wrong answer = you are getting old...)

I tried, however, when the phone has connected on 3/4 the loopback (ADI PRO AN 1-2 OUT -> Analog Hardware I/O-> ADI PRO AN IN 1-2) into the host/DAW is stopped via the USB/ASIO driver.

I know ADI PRO is not an audio interface! But I was just wondering is it is possible. If no, Which RME hardware you suggest to me?

Thank you,

Saludos Enrique.

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Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

You have to disable the automatic mute on analog out 1/2 when Phones are plugged in. Setup, Phones, Mute vs Phones 3/4...

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

6 (edited by djoder 2024-05-10 05:49:05)

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

Was looking for this, but, is there a way to keymap this "source" function to switch the monitoring from analog input to USB/internal computer audio while keeping outputs from USB?

I need to have the output sending audio from USB/computer at all times while on PH3/4 beeing able to switch from internal/analog input.

Also, is there any RME device that has a button to directly monitor signal from inputs while keeping the output from USB/computer?

I hope i explained well enough for someone to understand.

Thanks in advance.

7 (edited by KaiS 2024-05-10 06:07:21)

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

djoder wrote:

…is there a way to keymap this "source" function to switch the monitoring from analog input to USB/internal computer audio while keeping outputs from USB?

I need to have the output sending audio from USB/computer at all times while on PH3/4 beeing able to switch from internal/analog input.

Look at manual page 39, 40:
USB mode does what you want.

djoder wrote:

Also, is there any RME device that has a button to directly monitor signal from inputs while keeping the output from USB/computer?

Source select by a button press is limited to DAC-Mode.


You can store and use a “Setup” for each input.

Loading certain “Setups” can be assigned to a button push on the device or remote.
Read manual page 26 (DAC), 28 (Pro) or 30 (2/4 Pro SE).

Watch out:
The  “Remap key” configuration is part of each individual “Setup” and needs to be set for each individual “Setup”.
This can be used to toggle through 2 or more Setups with one single button.


Works like this:
As the button assignment isn’t global, but part of each “Setup”, you can even have different assignments to the same button in each Setup - a nice feature that we can use for the following:

Choose ONE single button that you usually don’t need.
In Setup 1 assign: “load Setup 2”
In Setup 2 assign: “load Setup 1”
Now this single button toggles between both Setups.


This method can be extended to load even more Setups if needed, like:
In Setup 1 assign: “load Setup 2”
In Setup 2 assign: “load Setup 3”
In Setup 3 assign: “load Setup 4”
In Setup 4 assign: “load Setup 1”
Now the single button circles through Setup 1-4, clever, isn’t it?!


As for loading Setups ADI-2 asks for confirmation, a double-push is needed to execute the load.
Holding the button more than 1s, the button‘s original function is available.
Therefore I typically assign the SETUP button to load Setups – sic!

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

Thank you Kais! If using DAC mode, does the sound from USB still plays and gets sent to output?

9 (edited by KaiS 2024-05-11 07:56:20)

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

djoder wrote:

Thank you Kais! If using DAC mode, does the sound from USB still plays and gets sent to output?

Yes, DAC-Mode simplifies the use.

But - source select is centrally in I/O / Line Out 1/2 for all outputs at the same time, no separate source for each output.

So this might not fit your primary use case.

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

KaiS wrote:
djoder wrote:

Thank you Kais! If using DAC mode, does the sound from USB still plays and gets sent to output?

Yes, DAC-Mode simplifies the use.

But - source select is centrally in I/O / Line Out 1/2 for all outputs at the same time, no separate source for each output.

So this might not fit your primary use case.

Exactly, unfortunately, it doesnt fit my needs. Already have one Adi2ProFs but need a new one for another studio, from what ive found in the manual of Fireface UCXII this is possible, from the manual: "Additionally, TotalMix lets you set up ANY submixes, so all existing outputs can be used for different and independent monitorings of the input signals. " Would you confirm this is possible so i can buy one? Thanks for your help!

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

Yes this is possible

M1-Sequoia, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue

12 (edited by djoder 2024-05-13 01:05:31)

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

yes it seems, however for my use case would have to create 2 setups, and switching between them its not so easy as ADI2ProFs. Trying to figure out through the manual if this could be done with a keymap function (Monitor switch between "daw" and "Line input" while having constant output from the daw in one of the outputs). Probably possible but need to confirm before committing.

If any other RME devices can make this please advise!

13 (edited by waedi 2024-05-13 01:28:12)

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

It seems you would be happy to have the interface paired with a ARC USB at wich you can flip snapshots with one push to a button.
A snapshot is a routing configuration stored to a snapshot slot in Totalmix.
Every input to any output mixed with any possible software playback is no problem.
With the UCX ll and with every other RME interface from the actual list.

M1-Sequoia, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue

14 (edited by KaiS 2024-05-13 18:51:24)

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

In most cases a dedicated studio interface like the RME UCX / UFX series - opposed to an AD-DA converter like the ADI-2 series - in general is better suited as central unit for music production.

It‘s a question of flexibility.

The RME recording interfaces even support ARC USB, a dedicated hardware remote control:
https://www.rme-usa.com/files/uploads/RME-Products/Accessories/ARC-USB.png


A question that rises:

What exactly are you doing that you need to switch sources all the time?
Don’t you use a DAW for recording that allows this kind of switching?

Knowing more about your workflow, maybe I can find another, ADI-2 Pro based solution.

15 (edited by ramses 2024-05-13 15:02:30)

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

Ideal is the combination of TM FX based recording interface and one of the reference converter which fit best.

The integration part, see here:

https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/Ent … our-Setup/

Model differences, see here:

https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=32506 (incl. changes with the ADI-2/4 Pro SE)

https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/Ent … ses-EN-DE/

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub13

16 (edited by djoder 2024-05-15 01:33:36)

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

Thank you for the recommendations. My current requirement is to monitor the direct line input while maintaining a consistent line output from the DAW/USB setup. Ideally, I'd like to achieve this with a straightforward front switch or keymap configuration. I recently came across what seems to be an almost perfect solution with the Volt4 and Dangerous Source, but since I already have the Adi2ProFs in another studio, I'm inclined towards RME.

To illustrate:
When the button is not engaged, I want to listen to the USB/DAW output on both monitors and headphones (regular setup)
When the button is engaged, I want to switch to listening from the line input, only through the monitors, meaning both speakers and headphones and not line out.

Essentially, I need:
- 2 x monitor outputs (for speakers and headphones)
- 1 x line out (unattenuated from the DAW, not controlled by the volume dial)
- 1 x line in (to monitor the return signal)

Both the Volt4 and Dangerous Source devices offer these routing options with a simple click. Is there any RME product available that could provide similar functionality?

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Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

Did you try the External Input option in TM FX?

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: ADI-2 PRO FSRm how to monitor analog inputs thru PH3/4

I have Adi2ProFs, that doesnt work with TM FX, would this be possible with a UCXII or BabyFaceProFs?