1 (edited by BennyHillFranklin 2024-11-02 00:23:58)

Topic: RESOLVED how to setup, route hardware send FX (guitar pedals) Totalmix

RESOLVED. Thanks to all who helped.

I am newbie and totalmix lost.

All I want to do is to use a guitar reverb pedal when monitoring a guitar recording.

How in the name of all that is good do I accomplish this? The guy in the video is a sworn enemy because he is clear as mud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApwZyRT … mp;index=3

Would some generous soul kindly give me a step by step procedure? Please be literally and explicit as possible.

I am using Pro Tools 11.

The pedal is a Source Audio Collider.

Re: RESOLVED how to setup, route hardware send FX (guitar pedals) Totalmix

Please be so kind and tell what interface you have.

M1-Sequoia, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue

3 (edited by BennyHillFranklin 2024-11-01 02:26:50)

Re: RESOLVED how to setup, route hardware send FX (guitar pedals) Totalmix

waedi wrote:

Please be so kind and tell what interface you have.

Pro Tools 11

The pedal is a Source Audio Collider.

I have RME outputs 5/6 going to the pedal stereo inputs.

I have the pedal's stereo inputs going to RME inputs 5/6

Re: RESOLVED how to setup, route hardware send FX (guitar pedals) Totalmix

Do you listen with headphone ?
Can you hear your guitar in the headphone ?

M1-Sequoia, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue

Re: RESOLVED how to setup, route hardware send FX (guitar pedals) Totalmix

waedi wrote:

Do you listen with headphone ?
Can you hear your guitar in the headphone ?

Yes, I listen in the headphones. I can hear the guitar in the headphones.

6 (edited by waedi 2024-11-01 03:26:24)

Re: RESOLVED how to setup, route hardware send FX (guitar pedals) Totalmix

In Totalmix, first question is : on wich output I want to have a signal ?

On the output 5/6 (we want to send the guitar signal to the reverb)
click with the mouse into the hardware output 5/6, somewhere in that field where the fader is.
The hardware output channel becoms highlighted.
Now lift the fader of the guitar signal the hardware input channel fader. Guitar sound goes to reverb.
and then we want the reverb in the headphone, right ?
Click the headphone output and lift fader from hardware input channel 5/6, reverb goeas to headphone.
Adjust the faders to your pleasure.

M1-Sequoia, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue

7 (edited by ramses 2024-11-01 13:30:52)

Re: RESOLVED how to setup, route hardware send FX (guitar pedals) Totalmix

I'm also a guitarist and use a UFX III like yours, with two vintage effects units connected.

Don't be intimidated by TotalMix FX—it’s a powerful mixer. The key is to understand that it operates differently from a standard mixing console. Each hardware output has its own independent routing (a “submix”), which is why it’s called Submix Mode.

The easiest way to work in TM FX is the mixer view (M), matrix view is too special for the beginning. Although it is the default, check the blue field at the top right to confirm that Submix Mode is activated. If it is, great—keep it this way.

Audio flow / routing

Audio from inputs is recorded unchanged in RME/TotalMix, similar to other recording interfaces you may be familiar with.

For output signals, however, each output’s routing must be set individually.
The process is straightforward:

1. Select a hardware output in Submix Mode.
    The routing for this output appears based on the fader positions for:
    -  Hardware inputs (audio from inputs) and
    -  Software playbacks (audio from the PC/application)
2. Adjust the faders for hardware inputs and software playbacks to determine which signals should route to the selected output.

Latency

Routing audio from hardware inputs has nearly zero latency, as it occurs directly on the recording interface.
Routing from software playbacks (e.g., audio from the PC/DAW) may have minimal latency, depending on the buffer size.

In your case, to route the guitar signal to output AN 5/6:

1. Select the hardware output AN 5/6.
2. Identify the source of the guitar signal:
    - either from a hardware input (usually from a mic or instrument input) or
    - from the DAW. In this case, route it to an individual output in the DAW, which will then appear in TM FX in the middle row (“SW playbacks”).
3. Raise the fader of guitar signal to 0 dB for submix AN 5/6.
4. Lower all other faders to prevent other audio from routing to AN 5/6.

Additional tips:

a) Use the “Sub” button under “Layout Presets” on the right side to display only the channels routing audio to the selected submix hardware output AN 5/6. This feature is particularly helpful with the UFX III’s many channels.

b) When working in submix mode, selecting a hardware output makes the top and middle row faders display the name of the selected hardware output or submix. This shows that routing is configured specifically for that chosen hardware output.

For further details

See this sticky post: https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=34394, which includes links to concise RME tutorial videos covering almost every aspect of TotalMix FX.

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14

Re: RESOLVED how to setup, route hardware send FX (guitar pedals) Totalmix

I am so grateful. This worked!

May I please send a Starbucks coffee card to you both?

Re: RESOLVED how to setup, route hardware send FX (guitar pedals) Totalmix

Thanks thats very kind.
Of course it is not needed the forum is for free.
I never go to Starbucks but I would probably try out once a have coupon.

Feel free to send via email notification thru the forum PN

M1-Sequoia, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue

10 (edited by ramses 2024-11-01 21:05:01)

Re: RESOLVED how to setup, route hardware send FX (guitar pedals) Totalmix

Nice to hear that it worked.

I am not sure whether it is of interest to you, but you can use your external FX for many use cases.
Here two things go "hand in hand":
- the ability of the DAW (like e.g. Cubase) to define external FX
- TotalMix FX routing.

In my setup I have two Lexicon Vintage reverbs connected to AN 5/6 (PCM81) and 7/8 (PCM91).
The PCM91 is a pure reverb/delay unit, the PCM81 also offers modulation effects well suited for electric guitar.

By TotalMix FX routing I can use the external FX for several use cases
- add FX (100% wet) to PC audio
- use PCM81 as FX unit for guitar, PCM91 as FX unit for DAW
- use both, PCM81 and PCM91 as FX unit for DAW.

I had to document my setup and did this in Excel. Therein you can see
- my TM FX snapshots for the different use cases
- the matrix view of TM FX for each TM FX snapshot (use case) where also the routing is documented.

You can see it in this blog article: https://www.tonstudio-forum.de/blog/ent … tup-en-de/

But also here in the forum in this posting:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 00#p192400

Some time ago I started over and removed all routings in my TM FX setup and setup everything new.
This time only the really needed routings, this is definitively much better to handle having only to implement the needed stuff, than to think that any prepared routing will do the trick.

And it is simpler than you might think! .. Why ?!
Because for recording stuff not much routing is needed, you simply record the channels.

What do you need on top when mixing, mastering, listening to music ?
Simply the monitoring part .. The routing from PC, DAW, Music player to active monitors and headphones.
In submix mode this is being established very quickly by clicking to the hw output (for active monitors and phones)
and raising the sw playbacks that you need.

What else you might need ?! Some additional routings for external FX in your DAW.
For most cases thats it plus maybe additional stuff for certain use cases like reamping or playing through virtual amp (VSTi).

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub14