Topic: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
Has anyone tried out the new macOS Sequoia while using the Fireface 400? Does the driver still work? Do apps like DigiCheck still work?
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2 2024-07-29 18:09:27 (edited by ramses 2024-07-29 18:10:00)
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
JAF wrote:
Has anyone tried out the new macOS Sequoia while using the Fireface 400? Does the driver still work? Do apps like DigiCheck still work?
Isn't it one of the features of macOS that the recording interface and its driver have to integrate into the sound infrastructure of macOS? It's not like Windows and an ASIO driver where you have direct access to the recording interface.
So … if the FF400 works on your Apple, then any application that uses audio should work.
Does that make sense to you?
Then you should perhaps better tell which Mac and which version of macOS you have so that somebody can confirm that the FF400 is working and by using which components.
Does your Apple still have a FW interface, or do you need thunderbolt and connectors? Or would you use an external thunderbolt case?
Good if you could provide additional information about your intended setup, thanks.
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Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
ramses wrote:
JAF wrote:Has anyone tried out the new macOS Sequoia while using the Fireface 400? Does the driver still work? Do apps like DigiCheck still work?
Isn't it one of the features of macOS that the recording interface and its driver have to integrate into the sound infrastructure of macOS? It's not like Windows and an ASIO driver where you have direct access to the recording interface.
So … if the FF400 works on your Apple, then any application that uses audio should work.
Does that make sense to you?Then you should perhaps better tell which Mac and which version of macOS you have so that somebody can confirm that the FF400 is working and by using which components.
Does your Apple still have a FW interface, or do you need thunderbolt and connectors? Or would you use an external thunderbolt case?
Good if you could provide additional information about your intended setup, thanks.
So, I'm running FF400 on an Apple M1 with macOS Ventura, I have also found out it works on Sonoma as well, which is macOS 14, my main question is if it does work on macOS 15 Sequoia. Why I ask? It's because whenever you update macOS, it says "macOS driver future incompatibility warning". My Mac does not have a thunderbolt port, the RME is powered by 2 connectors to be plugged into the USB C port, and I have no issues with that on my current macOS.
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
JAF wrote:
ramses wrote:JAF wrote:Has anyone tried out the new macOS Sequoia while using the Fireface 400? Does the driver still work? Do apps like DigiCheck still work?
Isn't it one of the features of macOS that the recording interface and its driver have to integrate into the sound infrastructure of macOS? It's not like Windows and an ASIO driver where you have direct access to the recording interface.
So … if the FF400 works on your Apple, then any application that uses audio should work.
Does that make sense to you?Then you should perhaps better tell which Mac and which version of macOS you have so that somebody can confirm that the FF400 is working and by using which components.
Does your Apple still have a FW interface, or do you need thunderbolt and connectors? Or would you use an external thunderbolt case?
Good if you could provide additional information about your intended setup, thanks.
So, I'm running FF400 on an Apple M1 with macOS Ventura, I have also found out it works on Sonoma as well, which is macOS 14, my main question is if it does work on macOS 15 Sequoia. Why I ask? It's because whenever you update macOS, it says "macOS driver future incompatibility warning". My Mac does not have a thunderbolt port, the RME is powered by 2 connectors to be plugged into the USB C port, and I have no issues with that on my current macOS.
Your mac has a Thunderbolt 4 port!!!
5 2024-07-29 20:23:32 (edited by JAF 2024-07-29 20:29:47)
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
alespardo wrote:
JAF wrote:ramses wrote:Isn't it one of the features of macOS that the recording interface and its driver have to integrate into the sound infrastructure of macOS? It's not like Windows and an ASIO driver where you have direct access to the recording interface.
So … if the FF400 works on your Apple, then any application that uses audio should work.
Does that make sense to you?Then you should perhaps better tell which Mac and which version of macOS you have so that somebody can confirm that the FF400 is working and by using which components.
Does your Apple still have a FW interface, or do you need thunderbolt and connectors? Or would you use an external thunderbolt case?
Good if you could provide additional information about your intended setup, thanks.
So, I'm running FF400 on an Apple M1 with macOS Ventura, I have also found out it works on Sonoma as well, which is macOS 14, my main question is if it does work on macOS 15 Sequoia. Why I ask? It's because whenever you update macOS, it says "macOS driver future incompatibility warning". My Mac does not have a thunderbolt port, the RME is powered by 2 connectors to be plugged into the USB C port, and I have no issues with that on my current macOS.
Your mac has a Thunderbolt 4 port!!!
haha yes my bad, it does have 2, incorrectly wrote that haha, thanks for pointing this out!
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Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
Your Mac has Thunderbolt 3, unless you forgot to write 'Pro'. Simply Google it.
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7 2024-07-30 22:15:00 (edited by JAF 2024-08-02 09:54:28)
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
MC wrote:
Your Mac has Thunderbolt 3, unless you forgot to write 'Pro'. Simply Google it.
I know that already, my Mac mini has 2 thunderbolt 3 ports.. This was never my issue. 
My question was if the FF400 is still supported via software updates *macOS Sequoia.
Why I ask? It's because whenever you update macOS, it says "macOS driver future incompatibility warning". So I do not want to risk losing compatibility, so I am just asking if someone tried it out or has a link that talks about this and compatibility.
So, does anyone have a clue? Sorry for any misunderstanding from my first message.
8 2024-08-02 19:53:52 (edited by Markdude 2024-08-02 20:21:06)
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
Hello, I believe I have a similar question.
I've started to get the following message when I boot up my M1 Mac mini on Sonoma 14.5 (using Firewire->Thunderbolt adapter and kernel driver v3.41):
"Legacy System Extension
Existing software on your system loaded a system extension signed by "RME GmbH" which will be incompatible with a future version of macOS. Contact the developer for support."
The setup is currently working flawlessly, but is more specific information available about this? Will RME drivers and software be updated to support this configuration in this case? Sorry if this is a silly question, I'm pretty new to Macs.
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
JAF wrote:
Has anyone tried out the new macOS Sequoia while using the Fireface 400? Does the driver still work? Do apps like DigiCheck still work?
Hi there have you tried it and tested it?
Cheers.
10 2024-09-20 16:06:04 (edited by bardsisson 2024-09-20 16:06:51)
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
Laennec wrote:
JAF wrote:Has anyone tried out the new macOS Sequoia while using the Fireface 400? Does the driver still work? Do apps like DigiCheck still work?
Hi there have you tried it and tested it?
Cheers.
I have 2 fire face 800s on a Mac Studio ultra, I tried it and it didn't work had to role back. The fire face app seems to see them but cant get any sound.
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
bardsisson wrote:
Laennec wrote:JAF wrote:Has anyone tried out the new macOS Sequoia while using the Fireface 400? Does the driver still work? Do apps like DigiCheck still work?
Hi there have you tried it and tested it?
Cheers.I have 2 fire face 800s on a Mac Studio ultra, I tried it and it didn't work had to role back. The fire face app seems to see them but cant get any sound.
In MacOS system preferences / General / startup items & extensions
Is RME listed and enabled ?
M1-Sequoia, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue
12 2024-09-20 17:55:04 (edited by bardsisson 2024-09-20 17:57:27)
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
waedi wrote:
bardsisson wrote:Laennec wrote:Hi there have you tried it and tested it?
Cheers.I have 2 fire face 800s on a Mac Studio ultra, I tried it and it didn't work had to role back. The fire face app seems to see them but cant get any sound.
In MacOS system preferences / General / startup items & extensions
Is RME listed and enabled ?
yes. security was set to allow as well. like I said it was like 1/2 working the app could see as well as in the audio/midi app. the interfaces would only go in stand alone mode tho.
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
Update. I did a fresh install of Sequoia and everything seems to work fine. havent done a lot of testing yet but Ableton sees the fireface 800 now.
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
Just to say I've just updated to macOS Sequoia 15.1 and my Fireface 400 is working perfectly.
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
Updated today. Macos Sequoia 15.1 works fine with FF400. Macbook Pro M1 14" 2021 - RME FF400 - Cubase 13.0.20
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
My system is working, but my Macbook 16 M1 updated to Sequoia today and I got the "Legacy System Extension
Existing software on your system loaded a system extension signed by "RME GmbH" which will be incompatible with a future version of macOS. Contact the developer for support."
so I'm contacting the developer for support. Any idea when we might see a driver update?
17 2024-12-10 09:44:17 (edited by Apfel 2024-12-10 09:55:39)
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
That massage appears from time to time. At this point it can be ignored. I have that message also for other older system extensions of different kinds. Apple will likely drop Firewire sooner or later. At that point Firefaces 400 and 800 will finally be obsolete. There is nothing RME can do about it. So either stay with the last MacOS that supports Firewire functionality or move to an USB interface.
iMac M1, Fireface 800, Logic Pro X
Re: Fireface 400 & macOS Sequoia Driver Compatibility?
I feel very lucky with my new Mac mini M4 with MacOS Sequoia and a FF400.
Before installing anything for audio, set to Reduced Security, rebooted and installed the driver for Fireface 400 Version 3.41,
no complaining at all from MacOS after rebooting again.
Connected to the FF400 (with all those adapters in between) and voilà the interface was immediately recognized and it's working perfect so far. Sound is crystal clear.
Nevertheless will upgrade to a new RME interface in the near future (need more in/outs) but will keep the FF400 for ever.
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