Topic: Manually change channel order

Hi

The 9632 has a certain predefined channel order like e.g. spdif, analog, adat or something like this.

Let's assume I want to change this to suit my personal needs.

Is there a way I can actually do this by e.g. editing the driver's .inf file?

Grateful for any hint,
deathlord

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Re: Manually change channel order

No, that is not possible. They are hardware related.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: Manually change channel order

MC wrote:

No, that is not possible. They are hardware related.

Maybe I could somehow modify the firmware? I mean this order has been changed in the past.

Re: Manually change channel order

It hase been changed once with the transition from the 2.x to 3.x drivers (I think...). There is no user-modifiable firmware, sorry.


Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

Re: Manually change channel order

RME Support wrote:

It hase been changed once with the transition from the 2.x to 3.x drivers (I think...). There is no user-modifiable firmware, sorry.


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Daniel Fuchs
RME

Ok. Then I would once more like to express my hope that something be done about the issue here. With Windows 7 it has aquired an even greater significance.

Re: Manually change channel order

Any chance I can get a custom-made firmware that has adat 3 and adat 4 switched?

Re: Manually change channel order

Why do you need these specific channels reversed? Anyhow, you can simply reverse them in Totalmix, with the pan faders on playback... Then 3 goes to the physical output 4 and 4 to 3...

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Daniel Fuchs
RME

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

Re: Manually change channel order

RME Support wrote:

you can simply reverse them in Totalmix

No, I'm afraid that won't help.

It seems, RME is unable or unwilling, to solve (or even confirm, for that matter) the problem described here.
So I need to think about options to solve it myself. I am now on Win7 x64 and the problem also occurs with waveout, so I do no longer get around it. Direct sound is completely screwn up in 3.85, no sound in interleaved mode at all.
I have a faint hope that switching ADAT 3 and 4 might solve this, hence my request. Of course I could explain this in more detail. But what for? Noone from RME cares anyway....

Re: Manually change channel order

Why can't Totalmix fix this issue?  If the outputs are showing up "out of order" in the Middle Row of Totalmix (Software Returns), you have the ability to re-map them to whatever physical outputs you need on the bottom row.  Save a preset that "Fixes" the order with your 7.1 player, and have another preset that is 1:1 for everything that works correctly (ASIO, etc).  Or is there more to this story?

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MADIface-XT+ARC / 3x HDSP MADI / ADI648
2x SSL Alphalink MADI AX
2x Multiface / 2x Digiface /2x ADI8

Re: Manually change channel order

Hi Randyman

Thanks for your answer. Of course I can configure two presets, one for 5.1 and one for 7.1. But then I have to check each time whether a source has 5.1 or 7.1 channels and select the preset accordingly. This is not really an option. Instead the soundcard should route the channels consistently.

Re: Manually change channel order

I agree - but honestly how much true 7.1 materrial are you seeing (that's mixed in "true 7.1" and not a 5.1 that's been upmixed to 7.1 like any AVR can do wink ).  True 7.1 mixes are pretty rare compared to commonplace 5.1 post production...

Fixing this in the driver is the way to go for RME - but you should be able to work around the few and far between 7.1 mixes (not 5.1 upmixes) that are out there with a Totalmix preset.

FWIW W7 seems to work fine with 7.1 over HDMI using ATI HD4550 video cards in a HTPC setup.  If ATI can get the Audio right then i just know RME can with a little effort :-).

Is there any way to adjust the audio mapping in the BluRay/VC1 decoding software you use until RME can fix this?


cool

MADIface-XT+ARC / 3x HDSP MADI / ADI648
2x SSL Alphalink MADI AX
2x Multiface / 2x Digiface /2x ADI8

Re: Manually change channel order

Randyman... wrote:

I agree - but honestly how much true 7.1 materrial are you seeing (that's mixed in "true 7.1" and not a 5.1 that's been upmixed to 7.1 like any AVR can do wink ).  True 7.1 mixes are pretty rare compared to commonplace 5.1 post production...

Sure, you are right. But that's not really the point, is it? The channels should be mapped correctly, no matter if the 7.1 is "true" or not. And there is a small number of Blu-Rays, both BD-video and BD-audio in 7.1 available.

If ATI can get the Audio right then i just know RME can with a little effort

That's what you should expect...

Is there any way to adjust the audio mapping in the BluRay/VC1 decoding software

I think upmixing everything to 7.1 should do the trick, which should be possible with ffdshow audio processor. But I can't get this filter to load on flac audio.
It seems using different presets in totalmix is the only way to go atm. (At least in Win7x64, in XP it is possible to use WaveOut, where, strangely enough, all the cannels are routed correctly.)

until RME can fix this

Do you honestly believe this is going to happen? They have known about this for almost two years (at least), but they haven't even so much as confirmed the problem. How long would it take to even start fixing it?