Any stereo input free? Then set up a mixdown on these channels of all possible sources and activate Loopback. That way you will see all the signals, no matter who plays what.

Hello
Just tried to monitor VLC with 5.1 sound using the 2nd Adat and loopback and it works like a dream! Guess I should have read the help file earlier...

thanx / Mike

Ummm, maybe ASIO vs Core audio?

You need to do some research before making statements like that.

Isaac.

Tucker, honestly - don't spread such BS around, please...

I'm seriously not trying to be rude or insulting in any way. And I apologize if I've come across that way.

I guess what I'm looking for is somebody to chime in and say there is a technical limitation to adding this functionality by either a firmware or driver (or both) upgrade? It has always work on windows. If its not possible on mac then fine.

I'd also like to correct myself, Fireface 800 is not deprecated by Fireface UFX, hence not legacy as I assumed in my last post.

Mattrixx,
OUTPUT cannot be selected in Digicheck on mac. You can only monitor INPUTS. And please correct me if I'm missing something. The only way to use digicheck to monitor audio going OUT of your RME is to patch in back in with a cable.

Ok, thanks redlogic. This is good to know. "To activate this function, click on the white label in the third row while holding down the Ctrl-key."

It's unfortunate that this feature comes at the expense of inputs 1 & 2. On windows all I had to do was select outputs 1&2 in the digicheck audio setup dialog and not other functionality was lost.

I've been using RME for 10+ years and have convinced many people (can think of 7 people off hand) to invest in RME's extremely stable platform. In other words I'm a huge fan. Since my switch to Mac shortly after Apple's intel switchover I've been waiting for this feature to come back in some form, as I constantly used digicheck on my output on Windows. At least now I have work around on mac even though it requires a bit more workflow.

Thanks, cheers.

But if I want to monitor my 2 mix coming out channels 1,2 I have to use loopback on 1,2 thus blocking input 1,2 mic, line correct?

I've gone back and reviewed the manual. Here are a couple of points.

1)
The fireface 800 manual "fface800_e" under "DigiCheck Mac" on page 46 states "Completely multi-client. Open as many measurement windows as you like, on any chan-
nels and inputs or outputs!"

That is basically incorrect as Digicheck Mac cannot select any OUTPUTs as a source for the measurement tools. Digicheck Windows can.

2)
After reviewing the manual "Recording a subgroup" on page 75, the only way NOT to loose the associated input channels (1&2) while using the Loopback feature on a pair of outputs (1&2) is to MIX the associated input channels (1&2) with another pair of loopback'ed output channels (lets say 3&4) which would result in inputs 1&2 being recorded with inputs 3&4 simultaneously on a record track. This may be undesirable in most cases.   

Page 75 of the fface800_e manual states "As each of the 28 hardware outputs can be routed to the record software, and none of these hardware inputs get lost" which is true but they're not LOST they have to be MIXED to be salvaged which in most cases would be undesirable.

CONCLUSION:
Sooooo, long story short, this is all less then desirable when on windows the user can just select an output from the digicheck preferences. This is the feature request. Make mac behave like windows so all this is much easier.

Again, all this is meant with great respect and admiration of RME, no insults or slights intended :-) 
And PLEASE correct me if anything I've stated here is not correct.

Thanks much!

It all comes down to the fact that we stated numerous times that this feature is complicated on the Mac and therefore needs time and therefore will come but later. For all our hardware that is also currently supported by DC.

Matthias - do you have any rough idea when you guys might start to address output monitoring for OSX? (At least for the UFX) - just curious when I have have the looped outs and ins back

I guess you have to consider extending the audio driver to provides some additional virtual inputs that are just local loopbacks of perhaps the first 2-8 outputs (accoridng to stereo/surround mode) or some similar hack?

I have wondered for a while if there might not actually be some merit in all the device drivers (for all platforms) supporting more ins and/or outs than physyical ins and outs on the interface just to support pure virtual submixes going back to the host computer, or physical submixes of multi-virtual channels from the computer being presented to a phsyical out. I guess total I/O bandwidth is ultimately the limiting factor unless the kind of switching available in FW mode could be extended (ADAT 1 on/off, ADAT 2 on/off, Virtual 1-8 out on/off, Virtual 1-8 in on/off for eg) and made avalail for USB mode as well. Just a thought...

I can't frigg'n wait...

I am waiting for that too...