Topic: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

I have installed my fireface ufx on two machines now, without managing to get anything near low latency, with other problems.

The CD installer runs out of the box as it should, and when I first tried getting the interface up and running about a month or so ago I installed what was then the latest flash update for the interface. Total mix was opening fine on my main laptop (2.6 ghz intel dual core, about 4 years old). However, in sonar once I went below 1024 buffers I was getting drop outs and glitchs, audio playing at a weird rate etc - sample rates etc set right. I also had a problem that the real tech sound card t hat came with my laptop kept reporting a "violation" whenever I powered up the UFX...however everyting worked once I clicked ok and it went away...but perhaps this might have been a related problem.

I tried again this week with the latest driver update and the latest flash update. The driver update didn't install as the xp guide states, and I did it from the system hardware tab in the control pannel. It always said the drivers I had were the most up to date drivers on the systems, even though I pointed it to the folder with the new drivers (I doubt the ones in the box on the CD are up to date!).

Just to make sure it wasn't that machines problem I tried it on another del laptop (a 1.8 ghz processor of the same generation, laptop had a gig of RAM etc), so should have been able to perform the same roughly as the other machine. Again I installed the drivers off  the CD, and then tried the latest driver of the website, and that didn't really install the way I expected either. When I tried it in sonar on this machine, it worked fine again on 1024 buffer, and reproduced the same results when the buffer was lowered. I'm sure these machines should at least be able to run the main audio out of sonar at a much lower buffer than that without problems?

The only other strangeness on this second machine is that total mix always seems to crash, producing an annoying "send error report, don't send error report" message, and it closes. Total mix began to crash with the latest driver on the first machine also, but with a slightly different message (though this could be due to them being different service packs of xp or something for all I know).

The only other thing worth mentioning is that I am blind, so I'm using a screne reader through the on board sound card in both machines for the speech, so I can't test them by disabling the onboard sound cards..the first machine I tried did report a message as though the ufx was clashing somehow with the on board sound card, but on my del machine, there were no signs of a clash, other than total mix crashing.

Sorry for a long message...is my UFX screwed or what?!!

It seems to work fine otherwize i.e. at rediculously huge buffer sizes I was able to route audio in and out of my daw.

Hope someone can help...At this stage, I'd rather someone who knows what they're doing take over my computer remotely to fix the dam problem!

I'm only actually testing these laptops to try and get the interface going before I setup my new quad core windows 7 64 machine, but I see no reason why the interface shouldn't be playing better with these machines, even though they're 4 years old, they're still relatively capable.

Thanks,
Brian.

p.s. I've no idea how the colours and text work on this f orum, so sorry if this post looks crazy or anything!

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

anybody?

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

You didn't mention whether you use Firewire or USB, Firewire may work better on these older laptops. The TotalMix crash indicates that you did not update the firmware (with the USB Flash Update Tool or FUT) to match the driver, or vice versa.

Note that the USB driver must be installed, and the unit must be connected via USB in order to perform the firmware flash update. If you want to use Firewire, that requires a separate driver installed from the Firewire Series section of the Downloads page on the RME website.

Regards,
Jeff Petersen
Synthax Inc.

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

Hi Jeff,

Thank you for that reply.

Yes, I was using it over USB, and haven't had a chance to try firewire. The drivers and flash update are matched, and I've now tried it on a third machine ( my new intel i5 quad core) and total mix was still acting strange on startup when I installed the interface. I've setup a short cut to launch total mix separately rather than just when the machine starts up, and total mix is working fine for routing things around etc, so that suggests to me that the software on the interface itself is working fine.

I had thought it was the onboard sound cards I was using at the same time as the UFX causing the problem, as they were appearing to clash somehow, but onmy newest windows 7 machine I disabled the onboard realtech soundcard and its still misbehaving.

Its just a little puzzling now that it is failing to work on three machines with sonar 32 bit and 64 bit versions on xp and windows 7, particularly as driver stability is the reason I bought RME!

Perhaps I should e-mail tech support directly,

Cheers,
Brian.

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

It sounds like you have never succeeded in the driver update, which version number does the Fireface Settings application show?

http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=11740

Also, see these links for tips about finding performance problems on your PCs. Make sure you use the "High Performance" power profile in Windows 7 (default is "Balanced").

http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1704

http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5462

Regards,
Jeff Petersen
Synthax Inc.

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

Thank you very much for the help. It is working quite solidly now, it was  conflicting with the ther sound cards I think, and I also think there may have been a problem with the flash update on the unit itself.

Happy days,
Brian.

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

I am actually still having slight problems withthis. Although the drive ris working ok, it doesn't seem to be working as well as it should. I'm working on an xp machine at the moment, andhave updated the flash sucessfully etc, and have tried to install the driver update, however, the about screne of the ufx settings diologue still says its on the original driver version from the CD dated December 2010 or whatever. When I go to the device manager, select my own location, and choose have disc etc, and choose the .inf file in the new winfire3047 folder, the next step of the hardware wizard says there is no information for my device in this location. Any ideas why it might be doing this?

The driver is working, whichever it is actually using, and the flash update would seem to be installed, so I'm just curious why the about screne still says its the original driver being used, and curious why the windows hardware wizard says there isn't anything for the device in the folder. Just to clarify, I have re-downloaded the winfire3047 driver and unzipped it a few ways, so that shouldn't be the problem.

Regards,
Brian.

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

Hi Brian,

In order to install the winfire3047 version, you have to plug in the UFX via Firewire instead of USB. If you want to update the USB driver, it's here:
http://www.rme-audio.de/drivers_usb

Please open the Fireface USB Settings app, this will tell you the currently installed version of driver and firmware at the top of the window.

Regards,
Jeff Petersen
Synthax Inc.

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

2.6 ghz intel dual core, about 4 years old

After the driver update you should also check the USB chipset. A Core 2 Duo CPU with an ICH8 or better chipset is recommended for USB usage. See http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_fir … uc_general

best regards
Knut

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

Hi Jeff,

Ah, what an idiotic oversight on my part! Thank you. That should explain everything finally!

Brian.

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

No, it's a bit confusing smile

Regards,
Jeff Petersen
Synthax Inc.

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

Actually, yes it was a bit confusing, I probably just googled the driver update and took no notice of being on the firewire series driver download page given the nature of the ufx doing both.

I have just successfully updated the drivers and managed to make my xp laptop (not the best) run at a 64 sample buffer with out completely freaking out, 128 is stable and 256 much better obviously.

One last question for the moment. Is there a fix to the swopping of buffer sizes? When I changed buffer size while sonar is open the driver doesn't work remotely propperly. Of course restarting sonar/the computer fixes that, but sometimes when experimenting with pushing a machine etc for realtime processing etc it is useful to be able to swop buffer sizes on the fly.

Cheers,
Brian.

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

Usually it works fine, but it depends on the program. Apparently Sonar is not happy about it.

Regards,
Jeff Petersen
Synthax Inc.

Re: UFX problems on two machines running xp pro

Sonar also occasionally reports that the fireface ufx has been disconnected, but if the message to reroute outputs is ignored it seems to continue working fine. This is on sonar 8.5 producer.