Hi Philippe,

Thanks for the info on how to create a safe rotary encoder!  That is very good news.

I (and I think others) would be very interested in any template you developed for live use.  May I suggest that you start a new thread specifically to discuss Lemur and post the template there?  I would not want this good information to get lost in this more general thread.  Or if you don't want to post it on the forum please send it to me in an email.  I am waiting on the iPad 3 (I borrowed an iPad 2 from a friend to test TouchOSC) so it will be a few weeks before I can get one and try it.  In the meantime, that is a good idea to work with the editor.  I will do that.

Cheers,

David

We've been using AC7Core during sound check without issue, but as the interface us not really right for TM, only a couple of us have been using it. We've done some minor adjustments between songs with it but the MacBook has always been on stage to fall back to if needed. We've used Matthias' new OSC template for two rehearsals now, and while a heap better than AC7, unless the musician has an engineering interest as well, its a bit overwhelming for them to mix there own ears unless its already set up on the right submix for them. Will be gigging the OSC template tomorrow night for the first time, and it will be getting a heap more use than previously so will let you know how it goes.   

Yes completely agree. Even if I all I was doing was sound, I'd stay away from them once underway. Will be limiting use during performace to levels only!

I havent bumped into this. I have our vocal mics at max send (which is independent of submix), Each output channel (submix) then has an appropriate amount of FX return dialed in, which are mostly set and forget. (for monitor feeds, the overall level gets adjusted by the musican). My UFX doesnt run FOH - Most of our input channels come into an Allen & Heath Zed R16 which also drives the FOH. It also feeds the UFX via ADAT for monitors and vocal FX. I return the vocal FX on a separate analog AUX channel to the Zed.

As much as I love the RME gear and revel in technology theres still something reassuring about having some old fashion faders to grab when it all goes to sh$t on stage!

Cheers
Brendan

See my earlier posts in this thread. I had a number of problems, including what you described, and eventually got it working.  If you aren't using an adhoc network, I suggest trying it.  I had much better luck with adhoc as opposed to using my home wifi network.

Not sure about #2, but #1 is not correct.  Faders in TM and TouchOSC should reflect each other perfectly and immediately.  If yours are not, something is not set up right.

Thanks Nierbod. I have tried hardwireing the ethernet on the computer and a complete re-install of windows7 (had to do that for other reasons) and still get the same observations. There is 2-way communication between TMFX and touchOSC but the touchOSC faders will only update if you switch to another channel then back again. I don't know what I could have wrong, there is 2 IP addresses and 2 ports. I have the touchOSC bridge disabled. If I had the IP addresses or ports set wrong it wouldn't work at all.

Great Beta update, Matthias! I really like the Channel layout. Works like a charm. No issues in my W7 64bit.
My TMFX window now looks very nice and clean and it's also much easier to work with my Mackie MCU now.

I've found a couple of bugs though, and I have one request.
Bug 1:
Using the Submix-linked-to-MIDI-control, the selection of submix from MIDI is not properly handled for Mono outputs.
Selecting 1 (by Rec buttons on my MCU), gives me Main (AN1/2). This is OK.
Selecting 2 gives me AN3 (Mono). This is OK.
Selecting 3 gives me AN5 if Mono or AN5/6 if Stereo (This should have been AN4)
Selecting 4 gives me AN7 if Mono or AN7/8 if Stereo (This should have been AN5 if AN4 is Mono, or AN6/7 if AN4/5 is stereo)
Also it seems like the hidden output channels are also a part of this selection, which I assume is a bug also.
I hope there's an easy fix for this.

Bug 2:
When Loading a Workspace or Snapshot (created a few minutes earlier with same TMFX version),
with my MCU turned on, the TMFX freezes, or the MCU stops working and does crazy things.
Happens very often, but not always. One time it even crashed during startup, after sending all info/status/names to the MCU.

Request:
I'm sitting here with my MCU which has 8 buttons screaming to be mapped/used: F1-F8.
When I press one of them, the whole TMFX mix and workspace resets to default.
This is a "feature" I don't want to be (so easily) available on the MCU. It's dangerous.
Instead, could you please map some or all of these to the Key Commands?
It would be VERY nice to be able to use these buttons to control mute/solo/fader groups :-)
Eg. Map f4-f8 to F4-F8 (Function Keys) and f1-f3 to A-B-C
or map f1-f7 to Prog, A-F
Also the row below can be mapped to something
(What about mapping the rightmost 5 buttons to F4-F8?)
The only buttons on that row that are mapped, are Inputs->CuePhones1 and AudioTracks->CuePhones2.
This almost looks like a coincidence...

Well I hope you'll have a good time at the Frankfurt mess these days!

Geir.

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions!

It seems you have the Option 'Submix Selection in Input/Playback row' active and select the submixes there. Then this behavior is logical and correct. You have to select the desired submix in the hardware output row.

We will try to reproduce. It might be helpful to have your workspace, as a specific setting in it might cause this.

In fact these buttons control the 8 snapshots. Seems yours are still empty (factory default).

Yes, we do have plans to add these MIDI notes (Mackie F1-8) to the Key Command dialog.

Can you please try the new RC1 (link in first post)? With a little bit luck the reworked MIDI part fixes this problem.

RC1 will be the last version for this kind of TotalMix (as soon as it is released as driver update). We already have another version far developed in the loop (the one used in Frankfurt, v 0.98x) which represents the next generation and will be the one for all later updates. D2D on Windows 7/8 and Hide panel are only found in that version.

Hey fellow RME users!

I made two TouchOSC preset for Iphone users and thought that someone else might find these useful.

[large]TotalmixPhone[/large]

The first preset - TotalmixPhone - took the longest to make. It's basically a leaner copy of the Ipad template made by RME. It's got almost everything that the Ipad template has but I couldn't fit all the things in so it was ergonomically usable. Some things, like Auto Mix and some rarely (by me) used things like mute and solo groups are left out. Also, as the screen is so small on the iphone, the mute and solo settings are on the last page. This was to give more fader space. the select buttons are still there, as are the pans.

First page is an overview of your faders, eight at a time. Scroll between channels with the Chan buttons. You can adjust pan/volume levels grouped or ungrouped and the Input/Playbks/Outputs switches between your fader banks (inputs, playback channels and output levels).

Second page has your current channel settings, gain as well as dynamics.

Third page are your EQ settings. It's basically laid out like the dynamic section.

Fourth page gives a birds eye view of your FX settings and controls.

The fifth page shows your main section. Here you'll select your submix, you have the main output level here and some other stuff. I left out snapshots, as I rarely if ever use them. It could potentially screw up your live mix too... Better safe than sorry.

[large]TotalmixRoom[/large]

The second layout - TotalmixRoom - is a quite stripped down, more customized template for my work flow. I made it as a monitor section for the most common stuff I use when casually listening or when doing studio work. It has a volume fader for the main speakers and one fader/pan/mute/solo for the instrument you're currently working on. It also has dim, mono, talkback and mute fx on the first page for easy access. With the CH buttons, you browse the tracks.

Page two has all EQ settings you'll need when recording in the studio.

Page three hosts the dynamic setting for that same instrument.

The last page, Ctrl, hosts your favourite mixer snapshot settings (provided you use them) and also bus selection, echo/reverb on/off and return levels, as well as Speaker B.

I'll try and improve them in the next few days and I'm also eagerly awaiting info on how to put meters in there. Maybe Matthias could shed some light upon it.

I hope someone else find these useful. Btw these will be posted on Gearslutz too. Moderators, if this post is too big, please edit it :-)

Files can be downloaded here: TotalmixPhone (around 10 KB)

Hello,

I think I found a bug in the MIDI implementation/Mackie Control support:
I use the option "Map Stereo to 2 Mono Channels".
When the sub mix corresponding to the 2 first faders is selected (stereo in TM FX) and I press the "shift" button on the controller, only the 2nd button LED up (instead of the 2 first like expected).
At the moment of the sub mix selection the 2 first LEDs light up as expected.

Other questions:
• How is the progress concerning VU-meter infos via OSC?
Will it be included in the final release?
Even if the implementation would not be perfect in software like TouchOSC it could be very useful to have...
• Is a "Map Stereo to 2 Mono Channels" planned for OSC?
That would be perfect specially for using the iPad together with a controller.

Thanks for the continued support!

Can you please elaborate on this (old workspace)?

Hi everyone, I'm a new owner of a Fireface UCX (23388378), and I've got to say, thank you RME, this is an amazing unit, sounds fantastic and drivers (MacBookPro5,5 driverUSB v1.66, firmware v42) are rock solid, not a single problem so far. I was attracted by the new Channel Layout feature in TotalMix FX 0.97 RC1, so I decided to check it out (following your instructions I updated drivers to v1.67), and I got to tell you, this is a great addition to the TMFX, awesome job you people are doing.

I found a problem in 0.97 with the Workspace Quick Select feature. I hit w, the dialog opens, my previous presets don't show up, I select save current as, I give it a name and when I press save, TMFX crashes (closes) and overwrite my previous preset1.tmws, but the name is not stored in the RME.TotalMixFX.plist like it should be??. I relaunch TMFX, hit w, and again, no presets (all <empty>), so, I try to save current .. again....., and again it crashes. I continue with the test, this time I clean up all the RME files in the preferences folder, then I launch TMFX, adjust my preferences and settings and quit it, because it seems like the settings are not written to disk until the app is closed?? Relaunch TMFX, hit w, .... , hit save and the app closes, although the presetx.tmws is created in the RME TotalMix FX preferences folder, nothing is write to the RME.TotalMixFX.plist file. I can post the crash report. 

I would love to help, so, thank you guys.

eDu

Hello,

The fix works!!!!

Thank you RME, you're awesome.

Peace and love.

eDu

Does RME think about supporting multiple client devices? I want to use my RME Babyface as a monitor mixer and it would be awsome if everybody could control its mix over WIFI using a phone, WOW!

To select sub group, go to Mainmix, then press Outputs. There you select the sub bus with the S buttons. You can then go back to mixer view, then select the input channels for that sub group. Do uncheck link to sub group in Totalmix.

If you want the strings for the editor, you could open up my template or the Ipad template and copy the strings :-)

Hi,

I've just tried TouchOSC 1.81 on my iPad3 with TotalMixFX (0.97 RC1) connected to my Babyface. OSC connection was established over ad-hoc network of my laptop wlan. However, TouchOSC crashed when playing around in the mixer and channel strip (i.e. changing channels). Doing stuff in the Reverb menu was stable. When disabling OSC in totalmix fx, I did not experience crashed as well.

Should I contact the TouchOSC developer as well?

P.S.: Removing ADAT channels from mixer and OSC/Midi Control prevents crashing but still, changing channels in touchOSC does not work then.

Contact TouchOsc creator and tell em about this bug. Any bug that crashes software is always critical.