Not the same thing. I've requested cloned main output to be able to send the current FOH mix (which is never static) to something else (like in a broadcast situation) or other main speakers with different compressor settings. It's on RMEs list but apparently hard to realize.

You are right if its just fader group the submix will be not be linked on second output... A proper duplicate would have both outputs submixes update identically.. Is that what you mean ?

Points 1, 2, 3 & 5 should be very easy to achieve as they are mostly based on pre-existing functions.

Faders can be grouped on output channels but submixes aren't mirrored.  (I may be wrong, but..)  i think the "cloned output" suggestion is to have an identical mirror of two outputs which would includes submixes being the same ? 

If all you want to do is adjust relative fader levels between 2 output channels a group will do that..

As is customary, I will start with a greeting. I know you are very busy, but 'hello Dax' is pretty easy to manage.

Hello Matthias,
Sorry for the slow reply, I didn't receive a notification and only saw your replies when I checked.

First of all, I have gone back and re-tested and can see that it's possible to link faders. I'm not sure why I was unable to do it the first time I tried. Perhaps I simply didn't realise you had to click on the fader knob, not just anywhere on the channel. I'm not sure. Glad to see that can be done.
I have edited my original post to avoid confusion.

However, you did not address any of my other points.

Further, I would like to add 2 more:

7) In Submix mode, the input and playback channels show the output to which they are routing. If the output is renamed, this should be reflected. One such example is the 'Phones' routing. If you click on 'Phones 1', input and playback channels do not say 'Phones 1', but instead the original output name.

8) This is very important to me: I just discovered last night that I cannot assign any output to be a headphone send.
I have 2x 2ru portable racks, once with UFX + Cranesong HEDD192 and another with headphone amp and 8-channel AD/DA converter which connects via lightpipe (& WC) to the UFX.
I want to permanently patch the 8 channels of DA conversion into my headphone amp since they live in the same rack.
At the bare minimum, I want to assign all 8 channels of ADAT1 to headphone outputs.

Best regards,
Dax Liniere.

(P.S. I have been using RME interfaces for over 12 years and recommend them to anyone who'll listen.)

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any chance of getting an option for snapshots to exclude all output channel levels ? I know its there for master but for live mixing it would be nice to only affect levels on row 1 & 2 and leave output levels so PA volumes dont change.

It's great to hear it.  Thanks.

Thanks for the heads up Matthias! It is indeed already stunning, amazing in fact! Looking forward to see which user request make the cut this time around.

Regards,
Matt

Yes – Very likely a dream.  This would still require bussing audio from TMFX FPGA to x86 CPU over ASIO and its inherent latency…

I would LOVE to see VST slots in TM-FX too - I'm just being a realist .

RME will undoubtedly suggest using a DAW application (like Cubase, Reaper, or even MultiRack) for this IMNSHO.  This has been suggested before, and does not seem like RME has any interest in implementing it (can't blame them - it's a very large can-o-worms)...

I mix and match TM-FX and Nuendo @ 32-Samples of ASIO.  I get the uber-low-latency from TM-FX when needed, and the insane power and bussing/routing flexibility of Nuendo on an i7 SB-E when needed.  TM-FX is not really meant to replace a proper DAW IMO...

as much as id like to be able to load VSTs in totalmix i dont think it would be worth it for RME if its going to cause instability inside their software.

What would be good is a "virtual" insert point on input channels.. Similar to how we have Loopback, an "insert" button could send to another audio application and returns to totalmix at selected points in the channel before the fader (pre post EQ etc). same concept as a hardware insert but with virtual audio driver... That would allow VSTs to be inserted with multirack type applications without compromising totalmix.. provided you could make it so the signal still passsed even if the insert crashed.. design wise that would be better IMO..

Are you referring to my suggestion ?

Its not really the same, mostly in terms of simplicity... if you have your DAW enabled for input monitoring, you load VST in the DAW channel and then you send that back into totalmix.. What you have comes through software channels on row 2 then..  Is that what you are calling the same thing ?  that looses totalmix EQ from Row 1 or if you enable EQ+D your VST would be post EQ only.. Alternatively you could use a DAW EQ instead but then you are starting to rely on everything in the DAW and you may as well not even bother with totalmix.. But that defeats the purpose to try and use totalmix for stability reasons in live enviroments.

Also with that type of signal path you would have input channel level, DAW level and row 2 software return level all before your output routing options to row 3 which is ugly gain structure..  i personally would not want to be switching back and forth between a DAW and TM like that in a live enviroment.  an insert point that didnt compromise stability if external application crashed is the most elegant solution if someone wants to try and use VST and retain totalmix as the main mixer.

Me too. I use Touch OSC and can mix from anywhere in the room.  A great solution for smaller gigs. 

Incorporating VST effects into TM is not likely.  I find the UFX on board effects are fine for cue mixes and most live gigs, although a bit more flexibility would be nice (e.g., I would like to see separate effects sends for delay and reverb).  If I really need more options I can use my DAW with input monitoring.