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Is RME impacted by the worldwide semiconductor shortage? The RME Babyface Pro FS seems out of stock in almost all UE countries.

RME Babyface Pro FS (previously: Multiface, Fireface 800, Babyface, Babyface Pro)

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No one is NOT impacted by the worldwide electronics component shortage (it's not only semiconductors).

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

903 (edited by rexet 2021-05-27 14:28:46)

Re: The official Babyface Pro Thread

MC wrote:

No one is NOT impacted by the worldwide electronics component shortage (it's not only semiconductors).

Fair enough, thank for the information Matthias! I'm always impressed that you answer every single question on this forum!

RME Babyface Pro FS (previously: Multiface, Fireface 800, Babyface, Babyface Pro)

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Hallo liebes RME Team,

könnt Ihr bitte im Total Mix und in der Doku des BF Pro FS umstellen auf die 0dBFS Angaben wie beim UCX 2. Das mit dem Headroom hat mich schon beim FF400 verwirrt.
Dann noch aus der BF Pro FS Doku:
DA, Line Out 1-2 XLR: Ausgangspegel bei 0 dBFS: symmetrisch +19 / +13 dBu, unsymmetrisch +13 / +7 dBu
Das müsste doch sym +19 / +4 dBu sein?

Viele Grüße
Andreas Groß

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DA, Line Out 1-2 XLR: Ausgangspegel bei 0 dBFS: symmetrisch +19 / +4 dBu, unsymmetrisch +13 / -2 dBu

Hab's korrigiert, Danke.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Ah, ich hab' mich schon gewundert, da die unsymetrischen Angaben überhaupt keinen Sinn für mich ergeben haben...

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Well I got a Babyface Pro FS on the weekend as I just needed to get on with my life. I was a little underwhelmed at first when I listened to music played back from iTunes off my Mac .... (I know) Until I realised it wasn't the Babyface it was the actual recording. As I worked through various styles of songs and music I was blown away at just how fantastic some productions and recordings were and just how average others were. I heard stuff I had never heard before clearly on music I had been listening to for decades ... like Dave Gilmour clearing his throat and sighing before playing guitar on "Wish you were here". Artists like Massive attack, Portishead and Kate Bush never sounded better. Anyway .... still learning Totalmix but getting my head around it. I just have 2 questions ... when you lock user interface in the preferences in Totalmix does the hardware override it? And question 2 ... If I decide to ditch my hardware mixer in a year and move up to UFX+ will I get the same or better converter quality? ... I mean real world. Also got to say having an interface this stable is genius.

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I own a Babyface Pro and I was wondering if there was any gain of performance by using the BF2USBC (USB-C cable) cable instead of the BF2USB? What about the Babyface Pro FS?

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It’s still a usb2 device so it won’t make any difference. With my bfp fs I use the old type usb as it isn’t knocked as easily as usb c. I did start using the usb c cable but when moving other cables behind my pc I kept knocking it out.

Babyface Pro Fs, Behringer ADA8200, win 10/11 PCs, Cubase/Wavelab, Adam A7X monitors.

910 (edited by dmajorsound 2021-07-25 22:28:49)

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Hallo Matthias!
Ich abe seit dem Update des RME Treibers
Probleme mit meinem Babyface PRO FS unter BIG Sur.

Meine Hardware: Macbook 2018 - i7, Intel
Software MACOSX Big Sur 11.5

Habe heute auf rme 325 drive upgedated und das Firmware Update durchgeführt.
seitdem geht leider gar nichts mehr.
Das Interface wird zwar vom Betriebssystem erkannt aber es kommt kein Audiosignal an - auch Total Mix lässt sich nicht starten. auch das RME FIREFACE USB Settings App startet nicht.
Im Audio-Midi Devices Setup wird aber nun auch ein Zusätzlicher Treiber angezeigt und der andere mit der gleichen Seriennummer ausgegraut dargestellt siehe bild: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tahg5uod0w3oa … s.jpg?dl=0

Die Sicherheitseinstellungen und der Systemzugriff wurden bei der Installation allerdings erlaubt. (wie von euch auf der Website für BIG Sur beschrieben)

Vor dem Update lief alles noch reibungslos (obwohl älterer Treiber 3.21 auf Big Sur - lief ohne Probleme nach Update von Catalina auf Big Sur)

Ich kann auch nicht mehr das Flashupdate ausführen.
Habe jetzt sämtliche RME Support Forenbeiträge durchgelesen und ausgeführt
Auch ein Reset via Timemachine auf einen Tag davor (vor dem Update) hat nichts gebracht.

Ich habe auch alle .kext und plist dokumente gelöscht - also alles deinstalliert wie im manual beschrieben und neu installiert.
auch die  tipps der forenbeträge habe ich ausgeführt.
terminal befehle alles ausgeührt.

keine chance. total mix lässt sich nicht starten das interface wird vom system erkannt aber die leds sind gefreezed siehe hier:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rj0zjg37wh1ca … e.jpg?dl=0

ich weiß nicht mehr weiter.
Verbunden ist das ganze über usb-c direkt an mein macbook.
auch das Flash Update tool geht auf meinem Mac nicht mal mehr auf, wenn ich es neu downloade.

Als Folge habe ich versucht das Babyface PRO FS auf einem anderen Rechner zu verwenden, auch dort geht Total mix nicht auf und auch das Firmware Update Tool lässt sich auch auf einem anderen Rechner (auch Mac) nicht starten. Nun befürchte ich dass es sich um ein plötzliches Hardwareproblem handelt.
Die LEDs vom Interface leuchten bei Verbindung
Ich habe ein Video gemacht wo ich das Gerät verbinde und im System ein weiteres Device mit gleicher Seriennummer aufscheint obwohl die gleiche schon da ist, im Totalmix scheint das Gerät aber nicht auf.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cdbzg4l2qvyob … r.MOV?dl=0


Bitte dringend um Hilfe - weiß grad nicht mehr weiter.

Bernd Dormayer
supervising sound editor | re-recording mixer

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Als Sie das Gerät eingesteckt haben leuchtete doch unübersehbar CC auf den LEDs auf. Einfach das Gerät in den korrekten PC Modus bringen (siehe Handbuch), schon geht wieder alles.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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tja, das hab ich leider auch bereits versucht, mittels DIM und SET button beim anstecken gedrückt halten setzt das Babyface bei mir am Mac leider nicht in den PC bzw. Mac Modus zurück sondern es bleibt im CC mode.

kann es sein dass das irgendwie "hängt" firmware zeitig?

Bernd Dormayer
supervising sound editor | re-recording mixer

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dmajorsound wrote:

tja, das hab ich leider auch bereits versucht, mittels DIM und SET button beim anstecken gedrückt halten setzt das Babyface bei mir am Mac leider nicht in den PC bzw. Mac Modus zurück sondern es bleibt im CC mode.

kann es sein dass das irgendwie "hängt" firmware zeitig?

USB muss ausgesteckt sein.

M1-Sonoma, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue

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Einfach mehrmals probieren und die beiden Tasten fest drücken.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Hallo! Nach mehrmaligen probieren am Mac hats leider nicht funktioniert. Er ging aus dem CC Mode einfach nicht raus.
Ich hab das Interface nun testweise auf einem Windows PC angesteckt und dort konnte ich aus dem CC Mode raus. Hier hab ich dann auch festgestellt dass das Firmware Update nicht funktioniert hat, da hier noch die alte Version angezeigt wurde statt 130. Hab das ganze nun auf Windows geflashed und in den Mac Mode zurückgesetzt. Treiber am Mac nochmals installiert, jetzt gehts.

schon etwas komisch.

Bernd Dormayer
supervising sound editor | re-recording mixer

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The usb cable is too short for my taste. Is there a USB cable a longer one I can use with the card or does RME specifically recommend using the one that comes with the card?

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I use the one that came with it for one pc but I also have a standard long usb cable which I swap over and use for my other pc. There is no difference in how they perform.

Babyface Pro Fs, Behringer ADA8200, win 10/11 PCs, Cubase/Wavelab, Adam A7X monitors.

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On my Mac the BFP FS appears as "Babyface Pro (730xxxxx)."

Would love to get rid of the numbers and just name it Babyface or BFP.

Is it possible to change this? Running Catalina 10.15.7, connection is USB.

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I’m sure this has been asked so apologies.

I have the standard BF Pro and  have a chance to upgrade if I can get the FS.  What’s the user experiences after upgrading - is there a difference?  Or would it just be a waste to spend another £100 and swap out for the fs?

920 (edited by strangedays 2021-10-11 11:36:26)

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I thought I'd reply to my own post, just in case anyone ever wonders the answer to my question (as nobody else responded).
There is a difference, I was able to sell my Babyface Pro and get the FS for only a small amount extra.  I can hear a difference though slight I wouldn't say that was the best part of upgrading - the switch on the bottom was one of the better features, and the improved headphone output.  Also a small thing but I like the new USB C connector.

Unless you were in my position - my warranty had run out it was 5 years old as well, it might not be a consideration for you, but it does offer some improvements that just keep the device running at the top of its game.

Compared to anything else I looked at I still prefer the Babyface Pro design,  I travel a lot and the slick jog wheel sits fairly flush to body of the interface, all the others - Audiofuse, UAD Apollo, and even the cheaper ones are just so bulky.  This slides into my backpack without me worrying a knob is going to get pulled of.  Still the best from every way you look at it.

921 (edited by Atanasi 2021-10-20 10:46:37)

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Does the remote control of TotalMix through MIDI still work in class-compliant mode? I would like to connect a class-compliant host and map the first eight channels to the ADAT output.

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In CC mode there is no TotalMix. Only on iPad, and there is no MIDI remote I/O.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Hello RME guys. Most of audio stores showed that RME Babyface Pro FS is out of stock. Will you consider a restocking or an upgrade of the product? Thank you in advance for your answer

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I'm working with a RME Babyface Pro FS and have two questions:

  • I installed the USB drivers from the RME website (driver_usb_win_1212.zip). It seems the available APIs are MME or Windows WDM-KS. Is there an additional driver that needs to be installed to get WASAPI?

  • Can I write three channels of data simultaneously? In looking at the config it seems that I must select channels 1/2 or headphones. Ideally I'd be able to write a 2D array (containing three channels with N samples) that are played through the headphones (one channel for right, one channel for left) and the third channel sent to the XLR output in the back. Is this possible?

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bburan wrote:

I'm working with a RME Babyface Pro FS and have two questions:

  • I installed the USB drivers from the RME website (driver_usb_win_1212.zip). It seems the available APIs are MME or Windows WDM-KS. Is there an additional driver that needs to be installed to get WASAPI?

  • Can I write three channels of data simultaneously? In looking at the config it seems that I must select channels 1/2 or headphones. Ideally I'd be able to write a 2D array (containing three channels with N samples) that are played through the headphones (one channel for right, one channel for left) and the third channel sent to the XLR output in the back. Is this possible?

You'll need to spend sometime familiarising yourself with Totalmix. It's possible to send a stereo signal to the headphone out and then a mono signal to the speaker out for your three channels.

Not sure about WASAPi since I'm on a Mac.

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miscend wrote:

You'll need to spend sometime familiarising yourself with Totalmix. It's possible to send a stereo signal to the headphone out and then a mono signal to the speaker out for your three channels.

I could not figure out how to install Totalmix. I went to RME downloads (https://rme-audio.de/downloads.html) and selected Babyface Pro FS, downloaded the drivers and installed. I could then see Babyface Pro FS as a device (technically, many devices each with a different channel selection). However, no Totalmix. When I select software, I only see "Totalmix Remote", which does not appear to be what's needed.

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bburan wrote:

I could not figure out how to install Totalmix. I went to RME downloads (https://rme-audio.de/downloads.html) and selected Babyface Pro FS, downloaded the drivers and installed. I could then see Babyface Pro FS as a device (technically, many devices each with a different channel selection). However, no Totalmix. When I select software, I only see "Totalmix Remote", which does not appear to be what's needed.

Have you checked out the manual? The 'Driver and Firmware' chapter says: "After a reboot, the icons of TotalMix FX and Settings dialog appear in the notification area."

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Hi,

I appreciate this may be a futile question, but is anyone aware of any Babyface Pro stock anywhere in the UK?

Thanks,

Scott

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Hello
I want to use my Ipad pro 2020 4gen usb c (running apple MainStage )
this i will use for live mode only no recording ... the audio interface i am going to go for is rme babyface with power adapter . I have M-Audio Keystation 61 MK3 + Korg nanoKONTROL 2
So i guess i need a good usb c hub with power supply ?
What hub would you recommend 

regards Stefan

930 (edited by GreatWhiteShirt 2021-11-05 15:39:55)

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Babyface Pro external power supply - DC connector size?

Greetings. Brand new Babyface Pro user here.

The NT-RME-2 would cost over $100 Cdn here. Gulp...

So I am going to hunt for a comparable alternative (hopefully lockable).

The manual states:

"NT-RME-2
Power supply for Babyface Pro. Robust and light-weight switching power supply, 100 V-240 V AC, 12 V 2 A DC. Lockable DC connector."

and also:

"• Use an external power supply, any standard one delivering 9 - 14 V DC with at least 1 A will work. The connector needs to have – outside, + inside."

However, the size of the DC connector is not described. I am no expert on the subject but I believe such connectors are of differing sizes(?). (in/ext in mm).

Can anyone please tell me the connector required for the DC in port on the Babyface Pro?

Thanks in advance!

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GreatWhiteShirt, 5.5/2.1 mm (from https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=30327 ).

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sonicod wrote:

Hi,

I appreciate this may be a futile question, but is anyone aware of any Babyface Pro stock anywhere in the UK?

Thanks,

Scott

I'd like to know the answer to that too. DV247 is the only site that doesn't say how long or if it will be in stock again. I assume that it's unlikely to be available this year at all sad Part of me would like to know if it's a logistics/customs problem specific to the UK or if it's more global.

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jannesson wrote:

Hello
I want to use my Ipad pro 2020 4gen usb c (running apple MainStage )

So i guess i need a good usb c hub with power supply ?
What hub would you recommend

Virtually any USB C hub will do, but best of course is to err on the higher-quality side. I use a Vava 8-in-1 model which works very reliable.

Be sure to put the Babyface in CC mode for iPad use (press Select & Dim while powering on, toggles between „CC“ wnd „PC“ mode) - I forget this every second time and wonder why nothing happens in Totalmix. ,)

Best!

MADIface(s) Pro, UFX+, MADI Router
Mac mini Intel, iPad Air 2020
ProTools, Hindenburg

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crille wrote:

GreatWhiteShirt, 5.5/2.1 mm (from https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=30327 ).

Thank you crille!

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Hi. I have a couple questions...

I just bought a Babyface, which I plan to use both for home-recording and to play live, using a Macbook Air M1.

First, if I use the Babyface in DAW mode, with Logic Pro X, apart from using Totalmix to switch Phantom power when using condenser mics, are there any other settings in Totalmix that I need to tweak or change?   

Second, about playing live... If I'm using the Macbook Air on battery power, does this provide enough stable power to the Babyface via USB to run it for a few hours?

I'd appreciate any input. Thanks.

Macbook Air M1, 16G Ram, 1TB SSD. Rme Babyface Pro FS. KRK Rockit 5. And a bunch of guitars.

936 (edited by M32 2021-12-03 01:39:41)

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Hello, i own a UFXII and a babyface Pro (nonFS). Normally the BBF is for on-the-road use,
but i wanted to try and use it as a converter that goes into the UFXII via the AES input. This way i'd get two extra channels from a nice clean preamp.
I managed to do it by connecting the adat optical out to a coax converter and in to the AES XLR input.

I guess that the signal is strong enough with short cables to work without an actual AES conversion box, which seem hard to find and pricy for the basic amplification thing they do.

All great, and a neat little find, however i was hoping to be able to use it standalone. But it seems like adat conversion only works when it is connected to a computer?

I was trying to power the BBF from a powered USB HUB that isn't connected to a computer, but then it seems like only the analog routing part works. (I was planning to buy an RME_NT_RME2 for using it standalone in the long-term)

Can anyone from RME confirm this?

Thanks,

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I've figured it out: The settings of the standalone mode seem to be separate from the ones in regular use. By using the onboard controls to redo the routings of input channels to the OPT1/2 channel in standalone mode, this now works flawlessly. So i now have 2 extra preamps at home at zero cost!

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Hi guys,
is it me, or are the only questions that are not being answered stock-related ones?
I've been waiting for a BF pro in stock for quite some time, and no updates are available, at any store.
I don't mind waiting, but I do mind waiting without knowing if I'm waiting for nothing.
Has there been any comment on the matter?
Cheers!

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crystAlex wrote:

Hi guys,
is it me, or are the only questions that are not being answered stock-related ones?
I've been waiting for a BF pro in stock for quite some time, and no updates are available, at any store.
I don't mind waiting, but I do mind waiting without knowing if I'm waiting for nothing.
Has there been any comment on the matter?
Cheers!

I feel like I've touched upon something that is either an x-file or has been beaten to death.

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hello, i just bought a new Macbook Pro M1 max and i tried to install the drivers to use my Babyface pro fs, it worked perfectly, but i installed a virtual machine Windows 11 (arm version) and there is a problem with the windows driver here. on the rme website, there is a windows driver for win7 to win10 but no drivers for windows 11, i heard that several person could install well the win10 driver on windows 11 but it doesn't work for me on the arm version. when i plug-in my babyface it is reconized in the device manager but not as a sound device. is there a way to fix it ? i think the problem come from the driver which don't detect the babyface well on win11 arm version. i'm kind of lost hahahha, please help

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The current driver is 100% workiing in Windows 11. Most probably your issue is the virtiual machine. We neither test nor support such usage.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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MC wrote:

The current driver is 100% working in Windows 11. Most probably your issue is the virtiual machine. We neither test nor support such usage.

thank you so much for your fast answer, yes as i said i heard that win11 users which use windows on intel have no issue.
maybe the problem is about arm ? windows 11 ARM is still BETA version and a lot of software don't work on it because the os functioning is different.

do you know if rme will support arm version of windows 11 when it will be release officially ?

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Hello, I’m testing the Babyface Pro FS and when I plug in headphones to 3,5 mm socket, the minijack plug is inserted much easier than usual, without much resistance and „click” sound. Usually – when pluging and unpluging jack –  you have to put a bit more effort, to prevent accidental unplug the cable. Do you have the same in your units or this is just the case of my particular unit? The 6,3 mm socket works normal, like any other.

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That is normal.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Hi,

I have a new issue with the BF Pro. Whenever I change buffer size OR sample rate while in Cubase Pro 11 system-wide sound gets silent. And if I close Cubase and change buffer size to a lower value (ie from 128 to 64 samples) audio glitches badly. Didn't happen before with Cubase Pro 10.5

I did check all the settings in Fireface USB Settings and they are as they were.

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> Whenever I change buffer size OR sample rate while in Cubase Pro 11 system-wide sound gets silent

I don't see how that should have ever worked. It only works when the 'system-wide sound' is totally inactive/off during the switching.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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MC wrote:

That is normal.

Thank you for answer. I have one more question and I would be grateful for response. In TotalMix it is possible to set faders to +6 dB position. Above 0 dB position corresponds to yellow and then red indicator on Babyface screen. Please correct me, if I am wrong: 0dB fader position corresponds maximal nominal Babyface output levels (+4/+19 on main and +7/+13 on headphones) and if I set the fader obove 0dB, the signal can be overloaded.  So, it is safe to don’t exceed 0dB fader level? Am I right?

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Yes. The 6 dB are reserve in case the signal is not loud enough (far under 0 dBFS).

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

949 (edited by kaserati 2021-12-25 00:03:31)

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crystAlex wrote:

Hi guys,
is it me, or are the only questions that are not being answered stock-related ones?
I've been waiting for a BF pro in stock for quite some time, and no updates are available, at any store.
I don't mind waiting, but I do mind waiting without knowing if I'm waiting for nothing.
Has there been any comment on the matter?
Cheers!


Same here , yes, the Babyface Pro FS is discontinued. Looks like Universal Audio , Antelope and now Apogee are selling more with dsp and plugins and RME is working in a new model with DSP.

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kaserati wrote:

Same here , yes, the Babyface Pro FS is discontinued. Looks like Universal Audio , Antelope and now Apogee are selling more with dsp and plugins and RME is working in a new model with DSP.

I think this is utter nonsense !

There are other 5 models probably going out of production, XT, XTC, UC, UCX, 802, but not the Babyface (looking at Thomann).

M1-Sonoma, Madiface Pro, Digiface USB, Babyface silver and blue