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Topic: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Hello,

I just wanted to know if anyone has tried the Fireface 800 (or 400) on Sonoma beta?

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

I'm interested to know too..

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 72#p207872

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4 Reply by TX-Jdub (edited by TX-Jdub 2023-09-26 20:33:46)

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Also FYI, working on Release Day 14.0 Sonoma is my FF800*

PCI ---> Ti-Chip based Firewire PCI card required   ( + you must adjust a Security Utility setting offline on your Mac in a safe boot mode.)

https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 17#p208317

Happy FF800'ing on our Apple Silicon everybody.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Upgrade from Ventura to Sonoma is fine.
download size 7.7 GB, installation duration aprox. 45min
All programs working fine, Digiface USB perfect.
No issue.

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6 Reply by Apfel (edited by Apfel 2023-10-05 10:11:01)

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

iMac M1 and FF 800 connected via adaptor chain here. This was running without problems from the beginning and still is with Sonoma 14.0. Hooray!

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7 Reply by quattroquarti (edited by quattroquarti 2023-10-05 11:59:49)

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Apfel wrote:

iMac M1 andFF 800 connected via adaptor chain here. This was running without problems from the beginning and still is with Sonoma 14.0. Hooray!

Yeah!!!!!

Thanks for your report!

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

... and still running with Sonoma 14.3!

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Sonoma 14.4 anybody?

I was informed by Universal Audio that their plugins won't work and one should wait with this update. The reason is some incompatibilty with their licensing software as far as I understand.

https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articl … ource=drip

So no update to 14.4 for me at the moment.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Apfel wrote:

I was informed by Universal Audio that their plugins won't work and one should wait with this update. The reason is some incompatibilty with their licensing software as far as I understand.

https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articl … ource=drip

So no update to 14.4 for me at the moment.

It’s the same here!

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Apfel wrote:

Sonoma 14.4 anybody?

I was informed by Universal Audio that their plugins won't work and one should wait with this update. The reason is some incompatibilty with their licensing software as far as I understand.

https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articl … ource=drip

So no update to 14.4 for me at the moment.

I wonder, that ua (and all the others), which implement iLok based copy protection point to Apples 14.4 sonoma update.

Fact: The 14.4 beta is available since 2 months for developers.

The manufacturers who blindly trust ilok are simply too embarrassing to admit that they themselves or their copy protection partner „iLok“ failed to test it in time.

This example says a lot about the view of some manufacturers who force their customers to be online, to buy any dongles: Maximizing profit is above customer service…

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

According to PACE/iLok this might affect M2 and M3 Macs only: https://help.ilok.com/faq_licenses.html … _4_plugins
But I won't try with my M1 iMac in the moment anyway.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

i was wondering, too. Unclear statement from PACE/iLok:

...when running on M2 or M3 hardware under the ARM architecture.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

14.4.1 is already here. Problems should be solved: https://support.apple.com/en-us/109035

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15 Reply by Apfel (edited by Apfel 2024-03-26 20:06:18)

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

I can report that the Fireface 800 is still running with Sonoma 14.4.1 on my iMac M1 without problems as ever. No driver reinstallation or whatever.

(And no problems with the Universal Audio plugins in Logic, too)

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Great!
Thanks for this news!

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Has anyone tried Sonoma 14.5 yet?

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

I don't tried yet. I have a job in progress and I can't stop now.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Apfel wrote:

Has anyone tried Sonoma 14.5 yet?

Yes, all fine.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Okay then. Here, too.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Still no problems with Sonoma 14.6.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

And no problems with Sonoma 14.6.1

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

quattroquarti wrote:

And no problems with Sonoma 14.6.1

Sequoia? Did you?

(I see, at the same time there is also Sonoma 14.7)

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Here Sonoma 14.7 is ok: no problems after update!

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Sequoia... I will wait a bit before updating

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

TX-Jdub did successfully as reported in the other thread: https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 82#p224482. Though that is a different situation, it gives me hope for my setup.

But looking forward to someone else trying first ;-).

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Yes, I read. I was also tempted to update. But I resisted the monkey that had climbed on my shoulder.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Done. Upgrade to Sequoia successful.
At the first moments it runs fine.
I checked before and after in LogicPro Audio device Latency it remains the same.
I hoped the latency would come down a bit for the bluetooth headphone, but no it stays at 204,6 ms
Digiface USB stays at 2,2ms (buffer 64, 44,1kHz)

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Thanks @waedi for your report.

FF 800 connected via Apple adaptor chain here. No USB.
This is why the upgrade could be more "problematic" here.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

quattroquarti wrote:

Thanks @waedi for your report.

FF 800 connected via Apple adaptor chain here. No USB.
This is why the upgrade could be more "problematic" here.

Yes, of course, no problem, no need to hurry,

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

I see, "bardsisson" has his FF 400 working with Sequoia: https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 09#p224809
So I guess in principle Firefaces 400/800 should still be working with the driver 3.41 that we have. But nevertheless I will wait for some sort of official statement from RME and/or more experiences from users before I do the update.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

I totally agree. I will also wait to read positive signals and confirmations.

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

RME has added Sequoia to the list on the Download page. So I take that as a confirmation that it will likely work.

Edit: But I will wait for some announcement from Universal Audio regarding the compatibility of their plugins. Their website says they are still testing.

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34 Reply by Apfel (edited by Apfel 2024-09-25 18:02:25)

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

At this point I created a new topic on Fireface 800 and Sequoia because otherwise it might get lost in this thread.

https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=40187

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Re: Fireface 800 on Sonoma Beta?

Good idea!

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