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Why when I use the sound card of my MAC everything runs smoothly and when I insert the UCX into my DAW Logic has problems starting by doing STAR and STOP several times? Who can help me?
Sonoma + Logic 11 + UCX
In Logic preferences / Audio You did select the UCX for audio input device and for audio output device, right ?
And in MacOS system preferences / Security and Privacy / Microphone : Logic and Totalmix is listed and enabled, right ?
In Logic preferences / Audio buffersize is set to something normal, let's say 128, right ?
In Logic preferences / Audio You did select the UCX for audio input device and for audio output device, right ?
And in MacOS system preferences / Security and Privacy / Microphone : Logic and Totalmix is listed and enabled, right ?
In Logic preferences / Audio buffersize is set to something normal, let's say 128, right ?
1) yes
2) Total mix ins't listed
3) is ok
Is the interface working ? Without Logic, just the computer and the interface, can you hear music or a Youtube thru the interface ?
Is Totalmix working ?
yes
hmmm
is a empty new Logic project also doing this issue ?
bbjmm,
you already asked for the same issue(s) in other threads...
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=40349
Or the last one here:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 80#p226180
Sorry, with all respect:
Why do you open multiple threads with similar issues?
Why do you not provide any further details?
Why do you not not answer simple questions at all?
Everyone wants to help you, but you should understand that you have provide certain information to be able to help.
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waedi, jfyi:
Microphone access for Totalmix is only needed for Babyface Pro units:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 29#p226229
I forgot, sorry, thanks
bbjmm,
you already asked for the same issue(s) in other threads...
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=40349
Or the last one here:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 80#p226180Sorry, with all respect:
Why do you open multiple threads with similar issues?
Why do you not provide any further details?
Why do you not not answer simple questions at all?Everyone wants to help you, but you should understand that you have provide certain information to be able to help.
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waedi, jfyi:
Microphone access for Totalmix is only needed for Babyface Pro units:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 29#p226229
nI don't see this help. Here too. Where would it be? You always tell me this and you don't give me solutions except a link to a thread where there is no solution. If you have it, help me here in this post and close the others. ok? Thanks
I forgot, sorry, thanks
I wrote this to Maggy
I don't see this help. Here too. Where would it be? You always tell me this and you don't give me solutions except a link to a thread where there is no solution. If you have it, help me here in this post and close the others. ok? Thanks
my problem is not that the message appears. I solved that. my problem is that the UCX has START and stop problems on LOGIC. How should we open a post on the forum. Are we clear? Can you help me?
I have the same issues bbjmm.
Are you on Apple Sonoma? Before Sonoma I didn't have any issues.
Thanks, Huub
MacBook Pro M1 Pro / 16 GB /1 TB
Logic Pro 11.0.1
Sonoma 14.7
UCX II connected directly to Mac usb-c port/Kernel driver v.3.33 / Firmware v106 (Latest Driverkit was even worse)
except a link to a thread where there is no solution
you never answered 7 simple questions in this thread, where you already mentioned your logic start/stop problems (in combination with driver problems). What do you expect? that other people have supernatural abilities to know your environment?
To add: Logic start/stop probs and hickups have been already discussed here:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=40022
And here:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=39771
Did you read them?
How should we open a post on the forum.
You go up one level (where you see all threads from this forum section), then click on 'New Thread' in the top right. That easy.
To add: Logic start/stop probs and hickups have been already discussed here:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=40022
And here:
https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=39771Did you read them?
I read both threads and nothing. I can only tell you that by unplugging the UCX the MAC does not freeze. So it is not a plugin problem or anything and not Logic settings. What can I do at this point? Obviously I tried everything...buffer size etc etc
n.b. driver 3.33
Still unclear how this issue is.
Is Logic doing start stopp by itself or is it you have to push start stopp manually a few times until it works ?
Is the playback stuttering ? Is this visible in Logic ? The locator has stutter-moving ? Or only the sound from the loudspeaker ?
Still unclear how this issue is.
Is Logic doing start stopp by itself or is it you have to push start stopp manually a few times until it works ?Is the playback stuttering ? Is this visible in Logic ? The locator has stutter-moving ? Or only the sound from the loudspeaker ?
I press PLAY and it starts again several times. Sometimes it starts suddenly, other times it stops and repeats the start and stop.
I would use a demo version of another popular DAW like Cubase or Reaper to check whether you can see similarities there or whether this might be a Logic related thing.
I would use a demo version of another popular DAW like Cubase or Reaper to check whether you can see similarities there or whether this might be a Logic related thing.
With Ableton and Fl STudio is ok
Then it looks to me to be an application related problem, did you contact Logic support already?
Then it looks to me to be an application related problem, did you contact Logic support already?
Absolutely. I would even say, its a problem related with bbjmm's Logic configuration or Logic interferes with something other.
But not with Logic or RME Drivers in general.
I press PLAY and it starts again several times. Sometimes it starts suddenly, other times it stops and repeats the start and stop.
This looks like Logic is triggered by something (whatever it is).
Checked MIDI and Control Surface settings in logic? Sure nothing interferes? Checked that no key commands trigger sth? tried a clean project with just a single Audio track?
I can only tell you that by unplugging the UCX the MAC does not freeze.
The Mac "freezes" (whatever you mean with that) in general if you plugin your UCX - or only Logic? Checked that MIDI/OSC Controllers in TM do not interfere with Logic? Or ARC USB (if you have one in use?). Any other (HW/SW)Controllers active?
So it is not a plugin problem or anything and not Logic settings
With Ableton and Fl STudio is ok
This is a contradiction, i do not understand as it makes no sense for me..
Could be almost thousands causes
The Mac "freezes" (whatever you mean with that) in general if you plugin your UCX - or only Logic? Checked that MIDI/OSC Controllers in TM do not interfere with Logic? Or ARC USB (if you have one in use?). Any other (HW/SW)Controllers active?
For me is this. Can you help me? what i do? I have ARC USB. How i check the MIDI/OSC?
thanks
For me is this.
I dont understand that. What do you mean?
I have ARC USB. How i check the MIDI/OSC?
The principle of finding a cause is first by unplugging/disabling everything which could interfere...
In this case maybe unplug your ARC, and any MIDI related SW/HW. Check how Logic behaves now...
If Logic works, then plugin/enable one MIDI related HW/SW by one... and see if you could point out which makes problems to be able to get in further details afterwards...
PS: You can use this tool to see what MIDI related things are going on in your system:
https://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/
For me is this.
I dont understand that. What do you mean?
I have ARC USB. How i check the MIDI/OSC?
The principle of finding a cause is first by unplugging/disabling everything which could interfere...
In this case maybe unplug your ARC, and any MIDI related SW/HW. Check how Logic behaves now...If Logic works, then plugin/enable one MIDI related HW/SW by one... and see if you could point out which makes problems to be able to get in further details afterwards...
PS: You can use this tool to see what MIDI related things are going on in your system:
https://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CDbclQ … drive_link
Arc send midi. Is this the problem?
seems your google drive link needs to log in with a google account, to be able to open it?
I dont have a google account...
Edit: Anyhow, without seeing the contents of your link...
You wrote: "Arc send midi. Is this the problem?"
Did you try plug out the ARC first, then see if Logic works - as i already tried to explain???
What is the result??
Edit2: You can use f.ex. https://imgbb.com to upload images which are public available.
RME has a firmware update to change the ARC USB data from MIDI to SysEx. Download from the link below, instructions are in the README file inside. This should fix the Logic issue.
https://rme-audio.de/downloads/fut_arcusb_mac_v7.zip
Jeff, i cannot see if the ARC sends Sysex or the "old-way-normal" midi messages... Were you able to open the content?
RME has a firmware update to change the ARC USB data from MIDI to SysEx. Download from the link below, instructions are in the README file inside. This should fix the Logic issue.
I can't get it into PROGRAM mode... why?
I can't get it into PROGRAM mode... why?
Because you did not rtfm??
What is exactly unclear in the readme?
How to use:
Exit TotalMix FX. Make sure it is NOT running in background.
Hold down the buttons TALKBACK and DIM on the ARC USB while connecting the ARC USB. Then all LEDs should be lit a tiny bit. The ARC USB is now in programming mode.I can't get it into PROGRAM mode... why?
Because you did not rtfm??
What is exactly unclear in the readme?
How to use: Exit TotalMix FX. Make sure it is NOT running in background. Hold down the buttons TALKBACK and DIM on the ARC USB while connecting the ARC USB. Then all LEDs should be lit a tiny bit. The ARC USB is now in programming mode.
I managed to update. But the fact remains that my Logic finds another sampling rate and crashes. The new thing is that the yellow microphone on the Mac's case turns on and off at the top right when the problem occurs. I remember someone in the forum having this problem. But I can't find the post in question anymore. Can you help me?
Do you have a iPhone ?
Macs can use the iPhone mic as input device, and it can cause problems.
Try switch off bluetooth on the mac and make flight-mode in the iPhone for a testing.
But the fact remains that my Logic finds another sampling rate and crashes. The new thing is that the yellow microphone on the Mac's case turns on and off at the top right when the problem occurs. I remember someone in the forum having this problem.
bbjmm, I posted several times already - but let my try again to explain detailed:
This (and all your logic problems) happen because the sample rate of your Logic project mismatches the current sample rate of your UCX!
I bet your UCX is set to get its sync from an external clock (see manual chapter 5.1 - the green LED are signalling this).
This can be caused by at least 3 possibilities:
1) a connected SPDIF/WC/ADAT source and set in FF Settings App NOT as "Internal" (see chapter 14.1 Settingsdialogue)
2) You have built an aggregated device in AMS where your UFX is not the Master
3) Any other SW or whatever sets a fixed sample rate for macOS system/UCX
Again, the possible reasons are described in the Apple Support Doc, too. Read it!
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102133
To explain again:
Logic always sets the Projects Sample Rate actively to the Unit selected in Audio Settings - if these do not match, there happens exactly that what you describe here and all your other Logic related threads. Like https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 85#p227785
-> Logic sets f.Ex 44,1kHz, but the unit gets the clock from external to f.ex 48kHz, and the toggle starts... again, and again...
Flickering Microphone Symbol, Start/Stop Problems and/or a final "Samplerate mismatch detected" popup in Logic are the resulting issues/indicators for this misconfiguration
I can reproduce this here f.ex by:
If I connect my TV via SPDIF to the unit (which uses 48kHz), and set its Clock Source to External in FF USB Settings App, then I open a Logic Project, which is set to 44,1 kHz
-> i get exactly the same behaviour what you describe
Hope, it helps.
I stupidly updated to 4.17 after running 4.16 with little issues. I read the update notes and didn't think it would have any detrimental effect.
It seems to have brought the return of the 'Logic playhead getting stuck in a loop over and over' problem - at least with a Large buffer size.
Logic 11.1, MacOS 14.7.1, M1 Mac Studio Ultra, Madiface Pro (USB).
I'll go back to 4.16. This is so tedious. I await a snarky response about how it's all my fault for updating.
Why not upgrade MacOS ?
I stupidly updated to 4.17 after running 4.16 with little issues. I read the update notes and didn't think it would have any detrimental effect.
It seems to have brought the return of the 'Logic playhead getting stuck in a loop over and over' problem - at least with a Large buffer size.
Logic 11.1, MacOS 14.7.1, M1 Mac Studio Ultra, Madiface Pro (USB).
I'll go back to 4.16. This is so tedious. I await a snarky response about how it's all my fault for updating.
I wonder how this (only) change could affect Logics Playhead?
Version 4.17
- Fix distorted audio after sleep/wake under Sequoia/SonomaIf the purpose of your post was, you want get some help, feel free to provide more details.
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