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Re: New macOS RME USB 4.06 driver – public beta test

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See manual, lists of files to remove is in there.

Hi MC,

In der Anleitung steht unter 2. Installation -->
Hinweis: Ein zuvor installierter Kernel-Erweiterungstreiber, wie 3.27, muss nicht deinstalliert werden, er wird automatisch überschrieben. Danach ist es möglich die Sicherheitseinstellungen des Systems wieder auf Default zu setze, falls nicht weitere Kernel-Extension-Treiber nach wie vor eine reduzierte Sicherheit erfordern.

Ich habe ja den neuen schon installiert und wenn der alte überschrieben wurde, sollte die Meldung
eigentlich nicht mehr auftauchen?   

sorry, stehe wohl auf dem Schlauch was ich wo von Hand löschen muss  ;-/.

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Re: New macOS RME USB 4.06 driver – public beta test

Es gibt (noch) kein Handbuch welches DriverKit-Treiber beschreibt. Sie haben das liesmich des Treibers gelesen. Treiber-Deinstallation steht im Mac-Kapitel des Handbuchs ihres Audiointerfaces...

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Re: New macOS RME USB 4.06 driver – public beta test

MC wrote:

See manual, lists of files to remove is in there.

I looked at this part of the 4.06 readme.

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Note: A previously installed kernel extension driver, like 3.27, does not need to be uninstalled. It will be overwritten automatically. After that you could set the system security back to normal, unless any other existing kernel extensions still need reduced security."

I read that as there are no need to remove anything manually if the installation goes through. Where is that part with files to remove?

Looking att settings in Fireface I have Firmware: v19 Driver: v4.06 beta now. Where can I see if there is something old left on this Mac?

What is the full process to remove all and install drivers from scratch if that may solve the pop and stop play back issue?

I have tried different usb port and is seems about the same... goes many hours without any issues and the suddenly there is a pop or stop or two...

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Re: New macOS RME USB 4.06 driver – public beta test

naturligasteg wrote:

I read that as there are no need to remove anything manually if the installation goes through.

Exactly.

naturligasteg wrote:

Where is that part with files to remove?

In the manual, chapter driver deinstallation.

naturligasteg wrote:

ILooking at settings in Fireface I have Firmware: v19 Driver: v4.06 beta now. Where can I see if there is something old left on this Mac?

You don't and don't need to. If there is something left you would get the same error message as the other user.

naturligasteg wrote:

What is the full process to remove all and install drivers from scratch if that may solve the pop and stop play back issue?

It doesn't.

naturligasteg wrote:

II have tried different usb port and is seems about the same... goes many hours without any issues and the suddenly there is a pop or stop or two...

In the end it is Apple's responsibility to make DriverKit work without such effects. THEY put DriverKit on all of us, and THEY decided that a not-kernel based solution is good enough for anyone. Although technically that is more than questionable.

That said pops and clicks can also happen with kernel-based drivers.

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Re: New macOS RME USB 4.06 driver – public beta test

Thank you MC.

I read that as there is nothing more to do about this? This playback issue something that Apple have to fix? But I did not notice it with my previous installed version (4.02 i think) so I thought this was a 4.06 problem, but it does not happen often so perhaps i was just lucky when I was using the old version?

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Re: New macOS RME USB 4.06 driver – public beta test

MC wrote:

Es gibt (noch) kein Handbuch welches DriverKit-Treiber beschreibt. Sie haben das liesmich des Treibers gelesen. Treiber-Deinstallation steht im Mac-Kapitel des Handbuchs ihres Audiointerfaces...

Ok Ich habe nach der Bedienungsanleitung alles entfernt was da war.

Allerdings gibt es die Datei im Pfad:  /System/Library/Extensions/FirefaceUSB.kext  gar nicht.
Jedenfalls nicht unter MacOS Ventura 13.1 auf meinem Macbook M1.  Ich habe zuvor noch nie etwas von Hand dort gelöscht.
Nach löschen der restlichen dort aufgeführten Dateien kommt jetzt jedenfalls das Pop-up beim Start nicht mehr.
Hat also geklappt.

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Re: New macOS RME USB 4.06 driver – public beta test

MC wrote:
naturligasteg wrote:

I read that as there are no need to remove anything manually if the installation goes through.

Exactly.

naturligasteg wrote:

Where is that part with files to remove?

In the manual, chapter driver deinstallation.

naturligasteg wrote:

ILooking at settings in Fireface I have Firmware: v19 Driver: v4.06 beta now. Where can I see if there is something old left on this Mac?

You don't and don't need to. If there is something left you would get the same error message as the other user.

naturligasteg wrote:

What is the full process to remove all and install drivers from scratch if that may solve the pop and stop play back issue?

It doesn't.

naturligasteg wrote:

II have tried different usb port and is seems about the same... goes many hours without any issues and the suddenly there is a pop or stop or two...

In the end it is Apple's responsibility to make DriverKit work without such effects. THEY put DriverKit on all of us, and THEY decided that a not-kernel based solution is good enough for anyone. Although technically that is more than questionable.

That said pops and clicks can also happen with kernel-based drivers.


Hi MC!

I have tried all the methods in this post, but still get pops and clicks while payback on my Babyface Pro FS with firmware 201 and driver v4.06! Is there a solution yet for this or do we just have to wait for another version to come? Years of flawless drivers with RME on Intel so I guess its an Apple problem. Strangely though when I use my FF800 on the same M1 MacBook Pro it runs flawlessly. When can we expect a solution for this as its impossible to run a session because of all the glitching.

Thank you!

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Re: New macOS RME USB 4.06 driver – public beta test

mlprod wrote:

Are you guys using aggregate devices by any chance?

No. No agregate devices.

Will also note that after using a stable build (3.28) for the last week, I didn't have any issues. It does seem to be the beta.

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Re: New macOS RME USB 4.06 driver – public beta test

Sorry for german, but my english isn't good enough...

Meine Beobachtungen:

Die Sicherheitsregeln beim Kernel müssen bei der Installation unten sein (wie für v3.x beschrieben), auch ist erst eine Installation von der letzten (offiziellen) 3.x hilfreich und dann ein Upgrade auf die 4.06b. Anders hab ich es nicht ans Laufen bekommen. Die Sicherheitsregeln beim Kernel müssen wohl unten bleiben, beim Zurückstellen auf den normalen Zustand wird fireusb und totalmix nicht mehr ordentlich hochgefahren beim Booten und das Gerät bleibt stumm.

Geräte: Mac Mini mit dem M1 Chip, 16 GB, 10Gbit Nic,
Babyface S/N: 2361.... mit FW 226

MacOS Ventura 13.2

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Re: New macOS RME USB 4.06 driver – public beta test

krow01 wrote:
mlprod wrote:

Are you guys using aggregate devices by any chance?

No. No agregate devices.

Will also note that after using a stable build (3.28) for the last week, I didn't have any issues. It does seem to be the beta.

I am very new to Mac and I have no deep insights in driver coding or the OS, but I did not have the same problems with glitches before this version 4.06 so I agree that is seems to have a connection with the beta on the M1.

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Re: New macOS RME USB 4.06 driver – public beta test

naturligasteg wrote:
krow01 wrote:
mlprod wrote:

Are you guys using aggregate devices by any chance?

No. No agregate devices.

Will also note that after using a stable build (3.28) for the last week, I didn't have any issues. It does seem to be the beta.

I am very new to Mac and I have no deep insights in driver coding or the OS, but I did not have the same problems with glitches before this version 4.06 so I agree that is seems to have a connection with the beta on the M1.

Also should mention that I'm on Intel.