You're right, thank you.  On one hand I'm relieved.  On the other, I feel like an idiot.  Thanks again.

RME is trying to work around bugs in other programs so please contact the support for your apps to fix it. Not properly handling relative paths is a bug and where I work we would treat it as such.

Update: the main problem I found was that I didn't plug in the device when I updated the driver. Now that the driver was updated, all ASIO programs work as expected. I'm now on driver version 1.227.

Hi Guys,

I just installed 1.227 on the main website and updated firmware to 203 however I noticed that Totalmix FX did not automatically update. It is still on 1.79 and not 1.80. I found a 1.80 Beta 3 version however as soon as I restart my Windows 11 machine, it relaunches 1.79. Shouldn't the official 1.227 driver include Totalmix 1.80?

I did the same, now I have the very nice boost option on analog ins 3 and 4. Great work RME!

With Babyface Pro FS I tried driver 1.227 yesterday,
ASIO was not found in Ableton Live 11, also not found ASIO in latest Omnisphere standalone app.
This is Windows 10.
Went back to driver 1.224 and it works ok.

https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.ph … 07#p198007

Sure. But that requires a new CC firmware as well, which will be available in the future.

Is there any detailed release notes for driver update releases?

Hi! Seems you are on 192kHz, right? ADAT has
8 audio channels @44.1/48
4 audio channels @88.2/96 (SMUX)
2 audio channels @176.4/192 (SMUX/4)
Beside that, what do you want to do further with your audio? Also @44.1/48 you would have the channels splitted over different kinds of hardware outputs, XLR main outs, stereo headphones, ADAT.

As far I can see it's normal behaviour in Audio-Midi-Setup showing all the channels but having slider knobs only for the analog outputs and the ADAT/SPDIF 1/2 (I have a Babyface pro too). But how is it on your system in TotalMix? Are there all the eight ADAT outputs available?

Doesn't work on my Mac as well. Playing back an Atmos 7.1.4 track out of Apple Music gives me only signals on five channels (Analog 1-2, 3, AS 1-2). I don't know why. In Audio-Midi-Setup I can set the speaker configuration to Atmos 7.1.4 and it shows how the channels are distributed to the Babyface, so far all ok.

1. no, beside the analog outputs, the Babyface pro has only an optical (Toslink) output which can be set either to ADAT or to SPDIF protocols. There is neither an AES/EBU XLR out nor a coaxial SPDIF (which on some other RME units is available, and also is compatible to AES).
2. yes, the routing could be easily done. TotalMix allows separate and independent mixes for every single output (or of course stereo pairs).

Why don’t you want to add an optical SPDIF to XLR AES/EBU converter box?
Do the monitor speakers only have AES inputs, no SPDIF?

At least with the two optical<>coax SPDIF converters I have (a cheap Lindy and an old Fostex), there is neither a stability loss nor a audio quality loss. Also absolutely no added latency.

Hello. A new user of the Babyface Pro FS. It would be nice if the OUT button on the interface didn't have to go through the digital output if I'm not using it and just toggle between output 1/2 and the phones output. Just an idea to improve it.

For anyone who might run into similar problems.

My Babyface Pro started glitching out like once every 10mins after installing Driverkit 408. Didnt have anything to do with load or such, actually mostly happened when watching videos with VLC.

Going back to the driver version 3.28B fixed it completely.  Never had problems with any other RME drivers before.

Really sad that old drivers arent available anywhere as i can see? If it wasnt for that alternative 3.28B version there wouldve been no way for me to downgrade. Isnt it normal to have older driver versions availbale somewhere for cases like this?

Thanks

Running:
BabyFace Pro
Firmware v203
Driver 4.0.8

Apple M1 Pro
Macos 13.3.1 (a)

Edit: A place where glitching was especially easy to see was switching to 32KHz samplerate. It was glitching constantly. With 3.28B even 32khz works fine.

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Even when there is no way to detect automatically if something is connected there is some sort of solution. Unfortunately this is not a direct option to toggle only between Main and Phones, _but_ there is an option you can set to toggle between Main and Speaker B. So as a workaround -- when you do not use speaker B, but only phones -- you can assign the phones output to speaker B and then set the option (somewhere in the USB/Arc settings -- I am not at a system with TM now --  so just out of my head...)

@RME: it would indeed be great when you could add the option to toggle between Main and Phones as well :-)

Punchipum you may consider buying an ARC USB then you can save the Babyface buttons and use the ARC.
Your idea is not bad but I would say no because I don't want the software to make changes by itself.

Hi, I'm noticing an interesting glitch with TMFX. If you listen to a mono recording, like the one I'll post below, with 'MS Proc.' on Software Playback 3/4 into Phones 1 and move the Software Playback 3/4 fader up and down, it creates signal in the side (right) channel for Phones 1.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=j3-Mv … ture=share

Please listen to that or perhaps any mono track, set software 3/4 on Windows 11, 96kHz, to MS Proc., move software 3/4 fader, observe signal in side (right) channel of Phones 1.

Kind of a weird one but it was messing with me thinking these recordings from 1938 had stereo effects. Thanks.

EDIT: I realize there is a separate TMFX thread. Please forgive

No, I know that. I know what mid side is and I know how it works (more or less). The issue here is not that mid is on the left and side is on the right. It's that, when playing back a mono source, moving the fader in TMFX *creates* side *noise*. The fader is creating signal where there is none in the source. That is distortion and the TMFX faders should not add anything to the signal. If it was a cheap analog mixer, I'd understand but a digital mixer should not add noise when moving the fader.

Here is a gif of the issue.

Edition            Windows 11 Home
Version            22H2
Installed on    2022-09-20
OS build            22621.1778
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22642.1000.0
Babyface Pro FS Driver 1.245, HW 203.

To recreate, send mono signal to SW Playback 3/4. Engage Ms Proc. Raise level to Phones 1. Allow Right Channel to return to UFL. Move the SW Playback 3/4 fader. Observe signal in Phones Right channel. It is audible and shows up in the meter. This happens whether sending audio from Reaper or the Chrome YouTube Music web app.

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPT … /giphy.gif

It might create noise in both channels but maybe you can test with a steady wave. Or I'll just leave the engineering up to you

Thanks for your reply. I see what you're saying and wasn't familiar with this phenomenon. You're probably right but it might not hurt to check anyway. It seems like there are solutions but if you don't want to implement them, and I'm sure you have reasons, then that's that. Here's a link that talks about zipper noise and proposes a few solutions just in case anyone is interested.

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electro … 5rFg?pli=1

Thanks again.

Yes, I understand. I appreciate your attention. Thank you.